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Why are these 32 symbols found in caves all over Europe | Genevieve von Petzinger

September 9, 2019


There’s something about caves — a shadowy opening in a limestone
cliff that draws you in. As you pass through the portal
between light and dark, you enter a subterranean world — a place of perpetual gloom,
of earthy smells, of hushed silence. Long ago in Europe, ancient people also entered
these underground worlds. As witness to their passage, they left behind mysterious
engravings and paintings, like this panel of humans, triangles
and zigzags from Ojo Guareña in Spain. You now walk the same path
as these early artists. And in this surreal, otherworldly place, it’s almost possible to imagine that you hear the muffled footfall
of skin boots on soft earth, or that you see the flickering of a torch
around the next bend. When I’m in a cave, I often find myself wondering
what drove these people to go so deep to brave dangerous and narrow
passageways to leave their mark? In this video clip, that was shot half a kilometer,
or about a third of a mile, underground, in the cave of Cudon in Spain, we found a series
of red paintings on a ceiling in a previously unexplored
section of the cave. As we crawled forward, military-style,
with the ceiling getting ever lower, we finally got to a point
where the ceiling was so low that my husband
and project photographer, Dylan, could no longer achieve focus
on the ceiling with his DSLR camera. So while he filmed me, I kept following the trail of red paint
with a single light and a point-and-shoot camera
that we kept for that type of occasion. Half a kilometer underground. Seriously. What was somebody doing down there
with a torch or a stone lamp? (Laughter) I mean — me, it makes sense, right? But you know, this is the kind of question that
I’m trying to answer with my research. I study some of the oldest
art in the world. It was created by these
early artists in Europe, between 10,000 and 40,000 years ago. And the thing is that I’m not just studying it
because it’s beautiful, though some of it certainly is. But what I’m interested in
is the development of the modern mind, of the evolution of creativity,
of imagination, of abstract thought, about what it means to be human. While all species communicate
in one way or another, only we humans have really
taken it to another level. Our desire and ability
to share and collaborate has been a huge part of our success story. Our modern world is based on a global
network of information exchange made possible, in large part,
by our ability to communicate — in particular, using graphic
or written forms of communication. The thing is, though, that we’ve been building
on the mental achievements of those that came before us for so long that it’s easy to forget that certain
abilities haven’t already existed. It’s one of the things
I find most fascinating about studying our deep history. Those people didn’t have the shoulders
of any giants to stand on. They were the original shoulders. And while a surprising number
of important inventions come out of that distant time, what I want to talk to you about today
is the invention of graphic communication. There are three
main types of communication, spoken, gestural —
so things like sign language — and graphic communication. Spoken and gestural are
by their very nature ephemeral. It requires close contact
for a message to be sent and received. And after the moment
of transmission, it’s gone forever. Graphic communication, on the other hand,
decouples that relationship. And with its invention,
it became possible for the first time for a message to be
transmitted and preserved beyond a single moment in place and time. Europe is one of the first places that we start to see graphic marks
regularly appearing in caves, rock shelters
and even a few surviving open-air sites. But this is not the Europe we know today. This was a world dominated
by towering ice sheets, three to four kilometers high, with sweeping grass plains
and frozen tundra. This was the Ice Age. Over the last century, more than 350 Ice Age rock art sites
have been found across the continent, decorated with animals, abstract shapes
and even the occasional human like these engraved figures
from Grotta dell’Addaura in Sicily. They provide us with a rare glimpse into the creative world and imagination
of these early artists. Since their discovery, it’s been the animals that have received
the majority of the study like this black horse
from Cullalvera in Spain, or this unusual purple bison
from La Pasiega. But for me, it was the abstract shapes,
what we call geometric signs, that drew me to study the art. The funny this is that at most sites the geometric signs far outnumber
the animal and human images. But when I started on this back in 2007, there wasn’t even a definitive list
of how many shapes there were, nor was there a strong sense of whether the same ones
appeared across space or time. Before I could even
get started on my questions, my first step was to compile a database of all known geometric signs
from all of the rock art sites. The problem was that while they were
well documented at some sites, usually the ones
with the very nice animals, there was also a large number of them
where it was very vague — there wasn’t a lot
of description or detail. Some of them hadn’t been visited
in half a century or more. These were the ones
that I targeted for my field work. Over the course of two years, my faithful husband Dylan and I
each spent over 300 hours underground, hiking, crawling and wriggling
around 52 sites in France, Spain, Portugal and Sicily. And it was totally worth it. We found new, undocumented geometric signs
at 75 percent of the sites we visited. This is the level of accuracy
I knew I was going to need if I wanted to start answering
those larger questions. So let’s get to those answers. Barring a handful of outliers,
there are only 32 geometric signs. Only 32 signs across a 30,000-year time span
and the entire continent of Europe. That is a very small number. Now, if these were random
doodles or decorations, we would expect to see
a lot more variation, but instead what we find
are the same signs repeating across both space and time. Some signs start out strong,
before losing popularity and vanishing, while other signs are later inventions. But 65 percent of those signs stayed
in use during that entire time period — things like lines, rectangles
triangles, ovals and circles like we see here
from the end of the Ice Age, at a 10,000-year-old site
high in the Pyrenees Mountains. And while certain signs
span thousands of kilometers, other signs had much more
restricted distribution patterns, with some being limited
to a single territory, like we see here
with these divided rectangles that are only found in northern Spain, and which some researchers have speculated could be some sort
of family or clan signs. On a side note, there is surprising degree
of similarity in the earliest rock art found all the way from France and Spain
to Indonesia and Australia. With many of the same signs
appearing in such far-flung places, especially in that 30,000
to 40,000-year range, it’s starting to seem increasingly likely that this invention actually traces back
to a common point of origin in Africa. But that I’m afraid,
is a subject for a future talk. So back to the matter at hand. There could be no doubt that these signs
were meaningful to their creators, like these 25,000-year-old
bas-relief sculptures from La Roque de Venasque in France. We might not know what they meant,
but the people of the time certainly did. The repetition of the same signs,
for so long, and at so many sites tells us that the artists
were making intentional choices. If we’re talking about geometric shapes, with specific, culturally recognized,
agreed-upon meanings, than we could very well be looking at one of the oldest systems
of graphic communication in the world. I’m not talking about writing yet. There’s just not enough
characters at this point to have represented all of the words
in the spoken language, something which is a requirement
for a full writing system. Nor do we see the signs
repeating regularly enough to suggest that they were
some sort of alphabet. But what we do have
are some intriguing one-offs, like this panel from La Pasiega in Spain,
known as “The Inscription,” with its symmetrical markings on the left, possible stylized representations
of hands in the middle, and what looks a bit
like a bracket on the right. The oldest systems of graphic
communication in the world — Sumerian cuneiform, Egyptian hieroglyphs,
the earliest Chinese script, all emerged between 4,000
and 5,000 years ago, with each coming into existence
from an earlier protosystem made up of counting marks
and pictographic representations, where the meaning
and the image were the same. So a picture of a bird would really
have represented that animal. It’s only later that we start to see
these pictographs become more stylized, until they almost become unrecognizable and that we also start to see
more symbols being invented to represent all those other
missing words in language — things like pronouns, adverbs, adjectives. So knowing all this, it seems highly unlikely that
the geometric signs from Ice Age Europe were truly abstract written characters. Instead, what’s much more likely is that these early artists
were also making counting marks, maybe like this row of lines
from Riparo di Za Minic in Sicily, as well as creating
stylized representations of things from the world around them. Could some of the signs
be weaponry or housing? Or what about celestial objects
like star constellations? Or maybe even rivers, mountains,
trees — landscape features, possibly like this black penniform
surrounded by strange bell-shaped signs from the site of El Castillo in Spain. The term penniform
means “feather-shaped” in Latin, but could this actually be
a depiction of a plant or a tree? Some researchers have begun
to ask these questions about certain signs at specific sites, but I believe the time has come
to revisit this category as a whole. The irony in all of this, of course, is that having just carefully classified
all of the signs into a single category, I have a feeling that my next step
will involve breaking it back apart as different types of imagery
are identified and separated off. Now don’t get me wrong, the later creation
of fully developed writing was an impressive feat in its own right. But it’s important to remember that those early writing systems
didn’t come out of a vacuum. And that even 5,000 years ago, people were already building
on something much older, with its origins stretching back
tens of thousands of years — to the geometric signs
of Ice Age Europe and far beyond, to that point, deep
in our collective history, when someone first came up with the idea
of making a graphic mark, and forever changed the nature
of how we communicate. Thank you. (Applause)

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65 Comments

  • Reply Bacchanalia August 15, 2019 at 1:19 am

    Real life Alien Prometheus TED talk.

  • Reply Eustace Martin August 15, 2019 at 2:20 am

    she forgot telekinisis.

  • Reply Dilip Rajeev August 15, 2019 at 5:01 am

    Daffy duck

  • Reply Randy Sokalofsky August 15, 2019 at 6:03 pm

    Part 2/3 deals with a great number of related aspects to the story however the ways in which humans have attempted to share their experience with the future is spread throughout the video. Even today we are attempting to do the same yet one can only imagine how we'll make the same attempt should the global infrastructure and all forms of electronics become useless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zfMyzXqfI&feature=em-lsp

  • Reply Marcel Tempel August 15, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    10.34 in video.. could this be the Phoenix Lights ?? she talks about stars..

  • Reply Dragon Le August 16, 2019 at 12:36 am

    Almost like caveman emojis

  • Reply Daniel Ebbeling August 16, 2019 at 2:00 am

    The DE-evolution is obvious .
    We are reverberations….mere shadows of what once was.

  • Reply stimulater7 August 16, 2019 at 3:46 am

    pheonix lights at 10:35

  • Reply mike talas August 16, 2019 at 3:49 am

    What are you talking about, evolution of the mind of artist! There was no evolution! It was immediatly there in our minds at the very creation of the human brain, lit by the spark of the eternal!
    Those cave people could've made the monalisa just the same as leonardo. They only lacked the material. ie…Brushes & paint.

  • Reply karen rao August 16, 2019 at 5:21 pm

    to use as a sleep aide

  • Reply Phil Hume August 16, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    your my cup of tea 🙂

  • Reply John Aspray August 17, 2019 at 8:53 am

    Careful observation of some of the ice-age scribblings results in a common message….."It's f'ing cold !".

  • Reply Michael Jaqua August 17, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    Very cool!  I'd love to talk with her in person to get more in depth.

  • Reply A normal guy With a beard August 18, 2019 at 12:00 am

    Could be recently drawn.

  • Reply Mountain Ready August 18, 2019 at 6:14 am

    Graffiti vandals

  • Reply Jerry Marshall August 18, 2019 at 6:21 am

    Carmel ca.,this ought to be interesting.ha ha

  • Reply rex singh August 18, 2019 at 8:47 am

    I bet there was a symbol for a big ole’ Dizzick.

  • Reply ROBERT CRAIG August 18, 2019 at 5:10 pm

    WHO PAID FOR ALL THE TRAVEL? WHAT FOUNDATION?

  • Reply Gergle Ravera August 18, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    She's an idiot, boring

  • Reply Katie Clapper August 19, 2019 at 12:34 am

    Wow. Great work! Your findings are lining up to everything I’m thinking as well with the bird language.
    The #32 is very interesting. It’s the # of teeth in our mouth and the # of ego parts we have as well.

  • Reply Holli Ann August 19, 2019 at 2:26 am

    "Mother Earth".Period✨✨✨???✍️✍️✍️?

  • Reply samkuel samkuel August 19, 2019 at 11:23 am

    What i want to know is what do they put in there paint i have to repaint every 15yrs ?

  • Reply Metta Bhavana August 20, 2019 at 4:38 am

    Australian indigenous peoples were also painting in caves that long ago. Just to shift the Eurocentric view a little.

  • Reply ben delaney August 20, 2019 at 9:20 am

    the spanish tectiform symbol looks like the ancient stone engineering found in egypy and peru

  • Reply Tim Turk August 20, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    HOW ABOUT THE SUMERIAN TEXTS? PROBABLY NOT FULL, COMPLETE TRANSLATIONS UNTIL 2018(?), STARTED IT IN 98' I BELIEVE IT WAS FINISHED IN 20 YEARS! HARD TO FIGURE OUT/UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE READING SOMETHING 26,000 YEARS OLD! AND IT WAS BEYOND OUR MODERN TECHNOLOGIES! YEAH, IT PROBABLY DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.. THE 1ST RECORDED HUMAN CIVILIZATION THAT APPEARED OVER 26,000 YEARS AGO AT THE TIGRIS AND EUPHRATES IN MODERN DAY IRAQ. I ALWAYS HEARD ABOUT THE MISSING LIN IN OUR DNA. WE ALL COME FROM ONE NEANDERTHAL MOTHER, YET THEY COULD NEVER (AT LEAST OUR FATHER'S SIDE OF OUR DNA) FIND ANY! IT'S ANNUNAKI DNA.. GREAT INFO ABOUT NOW AVAILABLE. I BELIEVE "THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. THE ANNUNAKI STORY" IS THE NAME OF MY FAVORITE. ONLY 15 MINUTES. KEEP ON SEARCHING. IT'S OUT THERE! THANKS FOR THE VIDEO. HAVE A GREAT DAY TODAY!

  • Reply dale carpenter August 20, 2019 at 11:18 pm

    The thundrrbolts project !!! For real science !

  • Reply richard isaacs August 20, 2019 at 11:41 pm

    Why do these European reaearchers always ignore Australia? Aborigines have been creating graphical communication for over 40,000 years. Sadly European white researchers ignore this work quite often because it doesn't come from their continent so it isn't seen as important. Same with history, the West goes on about the importance of Greece and Rome, but China was streets ahead of their roads and many of their construction techniques.
    .

  • Reply ownero1 August 21, 2019 at 12:36 am

    As another reply has said anyone remotely interested in this subject check out the Thunderbolts Project plasma cosmology/ electric universe theory they are finding very interesting things particularly the Alien symbols in a human sky.

  • Reply Tim Pas August 22, 2019 at 7:00 am

    all who put negative had reptile anscestors, not hominids…. hohohohohoh

  • Reply Street Outlaw August 22, 2019 at 8:35 am

    I can talk to every know type of man women big foot neighbors cops .my middle finger says it all.

  • Reply Patrick O'Brien August 22, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    I fell asleep like 4 times

  • Reply Tom Zeman August 24, 2019 at 12:40 am

    Why do you intellectuals insist on quoting prehistoric dates you know nothing about beyond 4500 years is pure assumption & speculation that has no basis in reality false prophets of the past are present day priests of evolution dogma!

  • Reply Kodi Pagan Shqiptare August 25, 2019 at 1:58 am

    Not 32 but are 36 symbols, Secretes symbols letters alphabet, Humane mouth can only make 36 letters sounds, This is are still used Albania alphabet 36 letters, English and rest of world don't have letters alphabets. On alphabet has words on the letter and this makes problems to read and listen and writers.

  • Reply Brandon Holeman August 26, 2019 at 12:44 am

    It was the ice age, they hid in cave to stay warm. There came boredom and drawing on the walls. Simple

  • Reply Teresa van Lieshout August 26, 2019 at 7:33 am

    The dots on walls could be humans keeping a record of days in the cave. It's a language/communication system.

  • Reply Teresa van Lieshout August 26, 2019 at 7:45 am

    It's obviously a communication system.

  • Reply Helios - August 26, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    There is no modern mind. That's an illusion. It's also now clear to me; that the apex of civilisation has long since past.

  • Reply Armando Castillo August 27, 2019 at 12:29 am

    talk too much

  • Reply Vlad Tepes August 27, 2019 at 1:36 pm

    Eat less, fatso.

  • Reply Benjie Foster August 28, 2019 at 1:25 am

    Don't you think you should go to AFRICA, if AFRICA is the beginning of it all.

  • Reply Brett Sears August 28, 2019 at 7:52 am

    Wow, why is it that they always attribute these drawings to adults trying to communicate or help us understand what their lives were like. LOL. These are the drawings of bored kids. Why do these idiots think that adults would be such crappy artists? Are they so below us that we believe these adults could only draw like a 5 year old.

    The reason every cave has the same images is because kids drew them and they are not very good at drawing. Kids today would draw the same stupid looking animals or basic shapes. Go find a toddler or young kid who drew something on the walls at home. They look very much like these same poorly drawn images.

  • Reply courag1 August 28, 2019 at 9:02 am

    Some of the lines in caves may not indicate counting but mapping the other branches of the cave system, game trails or like the string system of remembrance: the trigger to tales of the ancestors, or rights of passage.

    I found it strange that there were shapes which could have been the representation of the ark of Noah and indications of a flood.

    The conditioning of so-called science, overlooks what does not fit their paradigm. That so many ancient cultures believed in the flood, and we study them to find clues to what they knew… they knew there was a cataclysm. They were recalling what horrific changes this meant to them.

    But if we don't like or agree with what we find, if it does not match our current means of thought, we just ignore it all together.

  • Reply Eugene the Philostopher August 29, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    Why only 32? Well, it's obvious.
    They probably used 5-bit encoding.

  • Reply PaybackisaMan August 30, 2019 at 3:24 am

    Than Asked this Question the Real Owners of this Okkultism/Culture —–TURKISH FREEMASON's !!!!! Atlanta Mu ,Lemuria, Shambala, Siberian hidden Culture!!!!

  • Reply Stacy Caruso August 30, 2019 at 6:10 am

    I do not believe the cave drawings are as old as they are purported to be. Teenagers found the caves in the last century or so. They have been found in every generation by young explorers. Thirty to forty thousands years, no. A few thousand maybe.

  • Reply Mike Ivy August 30, 2019 at 9:09 am

    I would have loved to studied, majored, and received a doctorate In Symbology…! I find it fascinating….

  • Reply Doctor Octagon August 30, 2019 at 12:33 pm

    Why no cave art from Africa? Racist white supremecy

  • Reply Bill Johnson August 30, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    It's in France
    It means "Clothing Optional Beach"

  • Reply The Lion August 31, 2019 at 1:26 am

    What they should be asking is "Why aren't the ceilings covered in torch soot?"

    They never know to ask the right questions…

  • Reply steve kelly September 1, 2019 at 11:46 pm

    Ummmmmm, I doubt one can determine a particular cave paintings age (25k years, 40k years etc. ) it’s rock. A bunch of subjectivity In archeology.

  • Reply Flores_Reign September 3, 2019 at 11:38 pm

    What if it was the kids messing around cu, they were bored stuck in a cave while the horrible weather passed?

  • Reply Assimonem September 4, 2019 at 4:31 am

    32 paths on the tree of life.

  • Reply CharlieFoulkes September 4, 2019 at 1:02 pm

    Well, the sound recording is nice and clear… :-/

  • Reply Pat Brown September 4, 2019 at 5:10 pm

    The Symbols Are landmark to hidden message and locations on this earth and off this earth. Great video!

  • Reply george cirelli September 4, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    I thought Africa would be the place to find these art but this dumbass said Europe ?. She needs to go back to that college n get some of your money back.

  • Reply John Robert Lamonaca September 4, 2019 at 9:01 pm

    This good lady has it all very well understood and it was good to listen and learn too. It is alright knowing shape through your own self, yet it is nice to know of these very shapes origins…

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  • Reply Paul Ryan September 6, 2019 at 4:13 am

    The caves were housing no doubt, pre flood.

  • Reply Trevor Miles September 7, 2019 at 7:03 am

    I suspect that dirt floor has over the millennium risen quite a few feet above the original floor. Carrying that train of thought, I am sure there are more art pieces on ceilings of caves that have been filled with dirt. It is time to get your shovels.

  • Reply MonsterSIP September 7, 2019 at 11:49 pm

    Ok hear me out I have nephews some years younger then me. And in there bedrooms you can sometimes find your artist.
    like a refrigerator you hang them off of
    and no these are not sophisticated I don't think. or maybe your right and those are the classrooms of that time

  • Reply Micah Mcgaffin September 8, 2019 at 11:07 pm

    oh my god…..she is so dull.

  • Reply Henry Tilley September 9, 2019 at 12:21 am

    What about the dinosaur paintings in the caves? That’s more interesting to me.

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