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Time is a Flat Circle? (Nietzsche + Mega Man) – 8-Bit Philosophy

January 15, 2020


If one were to tell you: “Time is a flat circle,” you may rightfully say:
“What is that, Niezsche? Shut the f**k up.” Perhaps the phrase, “Time is a flat circle”
means that the universe is cyclical— that time loops back on
itself over and over and over again, like a snake swallowing its own tail. Or perhaps it refers to Nietzsche’s concept
of eternal recurrence, which, contrary to how it may sound, is not a theory
on the nature of the universe at all. Rather, eternal recurrence is a thought experiment
that asks: what if every moment, every minute detail of your life is destined to
endlessly return exactly as it is now? Referred to by Nietzsche as the “formula for human greatness,” the eternal return is a test of one’s strength of character. Allow me to explain. Nearly blind and tormented by constant migraines— Nietzsche thought that existence was endless suffering, like dropping onto deadly spikes, plummeting to your doom, or being pressed to death. Not only is the world brutal—the universe
is radically indifferent to human existence— and that means, for Nietzsche,
that our suffering is utterly meaningless. When faced with the harshness of reality,
people tend to be dejected or angry— and delude themselves into thinking
they can evade their own suffering, or they blame someone else for their fate
and seek revenge for their lot in life. To Nietzsche this hatred of existence is called “Ressentiment.” But no amount of revenge changes the reality
of the inevitability of suffering and death. Given this, the eternal return can be understood as a test of a person’s strength in the face of a nihilistic world. To see if they can aspire to the heights of what Nietzsche calls the Übermensh- A person strong enough to revel in tragedy and suffering and love life for its beauty and its ugliness. It’s a sort of Dionysian principal
that affirms life as it is. Nietzsche asks: What if in your loneliest
of… lone-lies a little demon flew up to you and told you that this world as it exists—
this lonely moment… would return for eternity. If your reaction is to curse the thought—
you have succumbed to ressentiment. However, if instead, for you, nothing would be more divine—then you exhibit the qualities of the highest type person: The Übermensh Trust me, this is not what Nietzsche intended. So now the question becomes, how would you have to live in order to desire repeating every moment endlessly?

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100 Comments

  • Reply Madeline Hill December 10, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    we being the key and the flat circle of existentance moving thru experiences in which our minds create (use of key)opening the doors we walk thru The choice is our own no matter how much engery pos or neg is directed towards us by others to influence our reality its ours ultimately experienced how we choose to with an openness of excitement at the prospect of learning or closed up full of fear and thats how i see it and deal pretty much thats the short .

  • Reply Madeline Hill December 10, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    😣😜😀💫✨Maddieness

  • Reply Lucius Vorenus December 18, 2015 at 5:53 am

    Listen Nietzche shut the fuck up

  • Reply SolusBatty December 30, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    FORUMLA FORUMLA FORUMLA 😀

  • Reply Francesco Mengoni January 2, 2016 at 4:28 am

    Se acepta un comentario en español?

  • Reply Sludgefriend January 4, 2016 at 8:05 am

    I actually experience something called 'psychogenic deja vu', which is basically a condition in which i feel extreme deja vu, sometimes triggered by stress. In a way, I've experienced eternal return. For the longest time, this condition just destroyed me as a person. Even at the best of times, the thought and feeling that what was happening would recur over, and over, and over for the rest of eternity terrified me. Like, Lovecraftian horror, mind-destroying revelation terrified me. I guess I'm just not an Ubermensch yet, because it still does.

  • Reply Gerbeck S. January 7, 2016 at 1:11 am

    I WANT THIS VERSION OF THE GAME

  • Reply Richard Bruno January 9, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    I'm so in love with these videos!!!

  • Reply ralf dsouza January 10, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    I thought that starts with a lie will end in a lie, time is not a circle.

  • Reply Manon January 11, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    I love these so much

  • Reply blackenedmaster January 16, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    so, batman is the ubermensch

  • Reply F o x t a y a m e January 28, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    loved the true detective reference

  • Reply LeifBrand January 31, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    If time is a flat circle, then the good moments repeat as well. Sounds pretty good to me.

  • Reply Mr. Geo February 2, 2016 at 5:31 am

    a snake eating its own tail is an occult symbol ouroboros it's like the Phoenix it's reincarnation, rebirth the never ending cycle… us

  • Reply Jake Richey February 18, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    I don't get the part at the end when he says, "Trust me, this is not what Nietzsche intended." What isn't? To become the ubermensch?

  • Reply Naomi Zacsh February 18, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    If you could only stop the background "noise"…..

  • Reply Lance Avion February 19, 2016 at 9:39 am

    "I don't care what you think as long as it's about me.
    The best of us can find happiness in misery"

    My god the members of Fall Out Boy became Übermensch years ago.

  • Reply John Smith February 21, 2016 at 2:15 am

    Seeing Proto Man in that moment gave me chills

  • Reply kathryn0200 February 24, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    i would Rickity w-w-w-wreck it son!

  • Reply Gwyneth Von Thunderthighs February 25, 2016 at 1:55 am

    that would totally suck though

  • Reply Marc Dellorusso February 25, 2016 at 5:31 pm

    I love that they used True Detective for this. Rust Cohle is the fucking man.

  • Reply Vincent Lance February 27, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    My ringtone is Protoman's whistle. Antics ensued.

  • Reply Donte Vann March 9, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    eternal recurrence sounds like dark souls

  • Reply Kyle Dinda March 15, 2016 at 5:51 am

    The Ubermensch.. The greatest possible version of themselves that any human can achieve? So basically a Buddha, right?

  • Reply Kead Davidson March 15, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    4:02 My scheme for revenge has faild.

  • Reply Piddyx March 16, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    Time is an arrow whose direction is determined by entropy.

  • Reply The ghast Of white March 20, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    I really wish I was a übermenzn

  • Reply Jake Griffiths March 21, 2016 at 12:48 am

    ubermensch is how I accept life as it is tragedy and suffering and all.

  • Reply William Lemmond March 25, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    One of those quotes (from Twilight of the Idols) seemed t break down into nonsense: "armor fail"? "armor fat 1"? "armor fat i"? And what followed lacked context for me. The rest of the video is really good, from my view, but that one part is very distracting.

  • Reply plutonianextract April 16, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    this question, as i understand it, is moot. If im able to perceive that each moment is repeating endlessly, then every sequential repeat is slightly different due to my own perception. If i am not able to perceive it, then it makes no difference because i am no more able to experience eternity than a rock.

  • Reply Thantos Qrow April 22, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    As opposed to a round circle?

  • Reply Lucía Gallón Rueda April 30, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    It's "amor fati" by the way, not "armor fati"

  • Reply DJARIA May 4, 2016 at 8:09 am

    Time is a theory there is only now

  • Reply StateLaughter May 8, 2016 at 3:05 am

    What is woman? She is a life-support system for a vagina, and nothing more.

  • Reply Gothead420 May 15, 2016 at 11:54 am

    Wow, being an Übermensch sounds like my kinda-goth-view-of-things:
    revelling in the beauty of a cute little rat, but being equally astounded by its intestines conserved in formalin…^^

  • Reply 悪霊退散 June 7, 2016 at 11:52 am

    I don't really get the relevance of the video game references. They seem to only distract from the content. Apart from that, thanks for the summary.

  • Reply Brayden Herspold June 11, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    Is there an opposite of an übermensch? Because if so, that'd be me

  • Reply Zyon Alejandro June 15, 2016 at 11:51 am

    Death, violence and tragedy.

  • Reply CurbsideUnderwood June 24, 2016 at 7:21 am

    Now I have to go play Mega Man lol

  • Reply Chris Kokolios July 27, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    we live the same life over and over in parallel universes inside a simulation

  • Reply TheRealBBC August 5, 2016 at 9:46 am

    What if this is exactly the purpose of reincarnation (if you believe in it)? To learn to cherish and make the best of existence as it is, both the good and the bad, and humans' souls are destined to return to life until we do just that? So the idea of heaven and hell isn't something that exists outside of us after life, but is what each individual decides what life on Earth will be like for him or herself. But what happens to the human soul once it has accomplished the task of cherishing life? dunno.

  • Reply dogsRoxXD August 10, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    I died at Über man

  • Reply Owl Eyes August 23, 2016 at 4:54 am

    can you do an episode on nihilism i would like a video to show people it isnt as depressing as it sounds after finally getting out of an argument with a lady who thinks shes a special little snowflake and how we are all special little snowflakes, btw the argument was me trying to tell her why slut shaming is evil, she didnt think so

  • Reply Davey Robinson August 24, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    This is AWESOME!

  • Reply Gold Ghoti September 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    what if I don't much care whether my life endlessly repeats or changes? What if I'm content and no more nor less

  • Reply Angel Vera September 20, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    corn dog

  • Reply L A F O R Ê T September 26, 2016 at 10:18 am

    You know what else is a flat circle?

    A clock.

  • Reply Evil Paragon 2 September 26, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    Can the ubermensch be "created" if negativity does not exist, and the person accepts 100% of the elements in their life?

  • Reply Unarmed Civilian September 27, 2016 at 5:19 am

    Absolutely love this channel. It's what Game Theory orginally was, but better by hitting the actual hard questions of life. Love it!

  • Reply Arina Arinza October 3, 2016 at 8:19 am

    Theese videos are so interesting. They make me think in new ways.

  • Reply Andrew Harper October 12, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    i love 8bit philosophy
    but the midi sounds are fuckin headache inducing

  • Reply walter bishop October 15, 2016 at 5:14 am

    great job

  • Reply DonutKop October 22, 2016 at 11:33 pm

    Lot's of sex probably

  • Reply Just Another Mike October 27, 2016 at 8:53 am

    So I'm just gonna throw this out there: All megamen are übermench.
    Rock,X,Zero, & even the ZX guys. their antagonists all try to do the stuff wily is shown doing in the vido down to even blaming their nemesis &/or the world for their suffering. And to top it all off in a really retroactively crazy way that blew my mind: the red doughnut looking thing from X6's volcano level looks like a snake biting it's own tail upon closer inspection. Kinda funny, seeing how the boss is a Phoenix of all things. Much like how some form of megaman always comes into action each time things go wrong, a malevolent force of some kind (wily, sigma, especially weil, serpent, master albert…) starts the mess, sometimes due to influence from the one before them. Freaking rebirth of the two sides every time. Weil takes the cake on this one as his will & wrath lived on somehow in a bunch of biometal called model W that makes people go crazy/possessed & guess what it creates when all of them are put together? A floating fortress. shaped like a snake. Biting it's own tail. called… oroboros.

    Ho-ly. Shit.

  • Reply UniqueSensitiveSnowflake November 12, 2016 at 11:00 am

    your videos are very good and detailed but it seems that it does satisfy me because it is to short that it does not cause of an orgasm of satisfaction. For me you should put more detail on the video long until every inch of the detail is put on a video maybe 1 hour on every topic is good or orgasmic I may say. Thanks for the videos its good btw. I only feel every 8 bit philosophy lacks something. 20 min minimumn is good.

  • Reply hoodoo November 16, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    ITs an excuse for satanism and its only for the strong.

  • Reply DarkSyner 76 December 22, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    I'd be content to living in suffering for my life to repeat itself forever if my cat or zuyrnfomx jax would stop being annoying. Also a gf would be nice too. Then we can suffer together

  • Reply Chuck Foosball February 21, 2017 at 7:01 am

    The level of annoyance of the 8-bit BG music is equal to the level of intelligence this video presents

  • Reply cinimod loki March 7, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    well it is magnetic so maybe we circle along the magnets. another thing is, the big bang shoots out like a star. the eternal 2 energies exyrovert and introvert. male and female. so if the big bang was extrovert, maybe before it was like a introverted supermassive black hole the was unstable enough to explode. hence, eternal recurrence.

  • Reply ShadowXg0z March 26, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    not giving a fuck

  • Reply Zachary Ybarra April 3, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    Bro your videos are so good but your dumb fucking music needs to stop.. it's very distracting. and i can't hear a damn thing your saying… like i can't hear you at all!! the dumb "retro video games" in the background completely take away from the realness and the seriousness of the subjects your speaking about on your videos.. I can seriously guarantee you that if u came up with something more adult like and something that doesn't lower the quality of your videos.. you would see some huge you tube growth,and your channel would be taken seriously and not like a waste of time resuting in a massive migrane… I'm just being real.. I do like your video subjects just not the bull shit in,the background

  • Reply Jamel Jarvis May 5, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    UBERMAN!!!

  • Reply Rean Quarzer May 16, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    its an easy way for a collective to deal with problems only a few migth have.

    People tend to think : "One blaming others is the easy way out." but try to think on it like this: "how ez is it for all to blame one?"

    belittle the problems of others until they break or falsy accept their suffering, because it makes it ez for the rest.

  • Reply John B June 21, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    If given an infinitely long amount of time, any situation will occur, so if time were an infinite loop, eventually something different would occur, making it not an infinite loop, but an infinite line.

  • Reply ishan gupte June 28, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    The formula for human greatness is… a love for armour? I knew it! Lvl epsilon5 armour, here i come.

  • Reply The Dark July 8, 2017 at 3:56 am

    But if you repeat every moment endlessly, then your knowledge of the repetition of moments can't exist, therefore it doesn't matter whether or not it repeats?

  • Reply Bush July 17, 2017 at 5:41 am

    you cannot just binge all of the 8-bit Philosophy at once because you have to really think about it

  • Reply crimsonsamuraiftw August 2, 2017 at 8:06 am

    so basically the same as the tale of The Buddha.

  • Reply Mitcholos August 8, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    Why am I crying

  • Reply Wilaine Dy September 26, 2017 at 9:46 am

    philosophy is changing my life..

  • Reply K. October 10, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    "Armor Fati" (2:19) ^^

  • Reply jettoiskie October 24, 2017 at 11:44 am

    You’ll watch this again

  • Reply J. Weatherford October 26, 2017 at 10:41 am

    What if there is no ubermensche and what if Nietzsche was wrong, and that the true motivator to any human motive is fear? Not that time isn't a flat circle. It's that human existence is an on rails program designed to avoid negation and pass dna to the next iteration. Faced with negation, the primary motive is fear. It's hardwired. It's in every cell and governs every form and function of the human corpus.

  • Reply Marduk Abaddon November 9, 2017 at 4:36 am

    dude, i love your videos. very precise, very simple. truly great.
    but…
    at 2:20 quoting Nietzsche in Ecce Homo.
    it's "AMOR fati"… not "aRmor fati"

  • Reply Nicholas Jerrat January 26, 2018 at 3:50 pm

    excellent

  • Reply m4v3r1ck March 9, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    THIS IS GREAT

  • Reply Drake Doragon March 27, 2018 at 12:33 am

    Gotta go with Rust on this…. fuck Nietzsche… lol.

  • Reply Free Speech March 29, 2018 at 4:21 am

    The music is really loud

  • Reply shamik bhattacharya May 3, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    Gita tells the same fact in " Akshar -Brahma " chapter.

    Remember what porcupine tree said ? " Ever had the feeling that you've been here before?"

  • Reply Wavy Wilf June 29, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    Thot experiment

  • Reply Nicolas G.Glebowski July 13, 2018 at 4:53 am

    rusth cohle aproves

  • Reply Ranginor Gaming August 11, 2018 at 9:36 am

    what a Great Format. Love it.

  • Reply gfactordude August 12, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    my personal take and modification to this idea is that we live our lives again and again until we become conscious and awaken as to make better decisions day to day and ultimately perfect our lives over time/many replays. The only things that are the same in every replay are your parents, where you're born, your name, etc. Things that you can't change in this current life. The rest are all variables and subject to habit and awareness. Every time we fail we bring some unconscious wisdom with us into the next life, until our lives as who we are become so light and joyous that there's nothing left to do in said life.

  • Reply Black Corp December 4, 2018 at 3:00 pm

    Deep and gamey … sounds like Life

  • Reply Nereus December 15, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    fucking annoying sound effects

  • Reply Mashable December 26, 2018 at 2:54 am

    Dark season anyone

  • Reply Singularity February 5, 2019 at 5:13 pm

    Despite what the video says, eternal recurrence is a theory on the nature of the universe. Nietzsche believed you will go through your life an infinite number of times.

  • Reply DarkSyner 76 February 24, 2019 at 8:37 am

    I could live with repeating my life forever if I was reborn and had no memories of my previous life

  • Reply Stephen Lucas March 12, 2019 at 1:31 pm

    too much 8 bit bullshit

  • Reply Natalia Ramírez April 16, 2019 at 1:21 am

    I like the subjects of these videos, but that video game music always gives me a headache.

  • Reply Tristan Burton June 20, 2019 at 7:06 am

    That would suck….could you imagine being a junkie bum….forever and ever and ever?

  • Reply UHFStation1 June 30, 2019 at 6:07 am

    Not sure what this explained.

  • Reply John July 7, 2019 at 10:24 am

    So it's more like an attitude. Live as if you have to live the life that you have over and over again.

  • Reply J. Weatherford July 14, 2019 at 10:21 pm

    It's the same argument that Camus makes in Sysiphus.
    If the universe is indifferent to your struggle and suffering, then it wouldn't think anything of making you live out your existence over and over. Being "happy" then becomes a bandaid or a superimposition over the facts. Ultimately useless.
    You're mindwiped at birth/death every time; so there is no way to even know you're in an iteration of a life lived countless times, and there would be zero way to affect the outcome.
    The only way out is immortality, and we aren't there yet…so…

  • Reply Vlad Tepes August 5, 2019 at 8:11 pm

    if the charmed witch could freeze many moments, she could put these into a line n the people in the freeze would circle-through. really.

  • Reply Salmane Lbadessi August 28, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    Great video!

  • Reply Osxkarallmyfriendsaredead October 13, 2019 at 11:54 pm

    My perfect life would be watching this videos all day ( zero ressentiment)

  • Reply Charles Burnham November 18, 2019 at 1:33 am

    I love that 8 bit representation of Schopenauer.

  • Reply Howard Lovecraft November 23, 2019 at 8:18 am

    3:00
    the flaw in this part of the theory is that people have different opinions of what suffering is. A person living in Beverly Hills gets in to legal trouble for drugs or embezzlement or something, and they endure a few months of self-induced repurcussions. But with the aid of ubermensch mentality and a few millions dollars…they got through their troubles to the victory line and can now live on a secluded island with the rest of their fortune. The problem is that this person, from THEIR own perspective, may in fact believe they are an ubermensch because of all they "endured" unfairly.😒
    oh how ubermensch-ish paris hilton is for being born a skinny tall blonde white american billionaire, and enduring all that drama with the sex tape, and still being around to enjoy her family's money."

  • Reply João December 29, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    This is Carcosa. Take off your mask.

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