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This Gaming PC Is DIFFERENT! Razer Tomahawk Changes The Game

January 8, 2020

if you know the question why you ask what do I say right it should be fun
the tomahawk gaming system oh let’s keep this here and then maybe I’ll bring the
this will be fine right all right hello everyone I’m Dimitri with Hardware Canucks
on my first video from CES so please be kind in the comments visiting Razer and
seeing this new iteration of the Razer tomahawk initially when we saw it it was
the Lian Li Apha rebrand but the Razer tomahawk not to be confused with
that Tower is now something that has evolved into this really cool NUC
iteration system that is going to be raised at Omaha a full gaming system
that they will include the graphics card that will include the new NUC 9 series
that we’ll talk about later but they’re also launching the Razer
tomahawk chassis standalone version the n1 and as usual big thanks to our
sponsors Razer fantex be quiet and Thermaltake for making CES 2020 possible
so let’s talk about the chassis itself it will come in four components as you
see the shell by itself it’s a 10 liter design so pretty compact following the
ITX footsteps but actually quite quite a bit slimmer there’s no power button
no i/o yet but it will come in later we have tempered glass on both sides Razer
only on the rear side as to not interfere with any graphics card that
will be showcased on this side very clean industrial lines love the
angularity of this really love the mesh design on the top currently no talk
about if they want to include any mesh on either of the sides but love the
design very cohesive beautiful frame they do include two 120mm fans for
exhaust to the top and that should provide adequate cooling for the NUC
nine and for the GPU itself plus there’s a bit of insulation at the bottom to as
the base plate does raise the whole chassis a little bit off the ground now
let’s talk about the actual internal components of that Tomahawks chassis so
we have the actual sled it is two lists just basically inserts from the back
really elegant approach we have the power supply it is an sfx unit it will
be there not sure about the actual water jet but up to seven
50 watts that they’re currently available in the market and we also have
the daughter cart at the bottom so it might have an additional MDOT to slot
inside obviously have the slot for the Nook 9 and for the GPU multiple
connectors both for efficient power for the actual NUC 9 and the graphics card
and plenty of length here to include any high end graphics card that you want to
populate inside this case beautiful elegant entire system cnc aluminum
tempered glass it is blocked off so careful with those fingerprints so let’s
bring in Mike so he can tell you more about what this whole new hardware
iteration of CPU on the PCI card means for the future of computing okay so I
really really wanted to talk quickly about the NUC 9 and Intel’s new
ecosystem so what this is it’s almost a complete PC just on one single card
that’s connected to the daughter card with a PCIe connector now on here you
have a motherboard you have m2 SSDs and you have a coffee lake ninth gen
notebook CPU in this case is either than I $9.99 a thk the I 790 750 H or the I
590 300 H right yes there are mobile CPUs but that’s to keep the TDP very
very low now the idea here is to take one of these and install it directly
into the NUC onto the daughter board pop it in like that and then in this
case or in raisers case you’re actually able to install a full-length GPU in
there you’re gonna see in our Nook coverage that in Intel’s concept nook
they can only install an 8 inch GPU into theirs so in Razer’s case they can go all
the way up to a 12 inch GPU that you install into the daughter cards so
Razer’s idea here is to build upon a nook ecosystem by creating what they call the
tomahawk gaming desktop and now what that includes is a GPU along with the
NUC 9 compute module that can include any of the CPUs that I talked about
earlier and have this as a complete desktop that they either sell themselves
or sell through some of their partners personally I think there’s super super
interest simply because of the fact that you can
have a complete system that still has the three year enough nine warranty and
it just comes in this beautiful sleek complete jassi’s what cut cut right now
it looks like this is going to be released in the first half of 2020 but
what we also want to know is what would you pay for it we have in here a coffee
lake notebook processor potentially a rtx 20 80 and a bunch of other
components including memory and and SSDs that razor would include as part of
their complete desktop system so pricing wise we were saying something around the
lines of $2,500 is that something that you would pay for it or would you be
willing to go above that for something that’s this compact now as for the
launch date that’s TBD at this point in time but it looks like it’s going to be
in the first half of 2020 so I think that covers pretty much everything that
we wanted to look at here at Razer but we’re gonna have some additional NUC 9
coverage with more technical details coming right up so make sure you stick
around for that I’m Mike with Hardware Canucks from CES 2020 eavers behind the
camera Demetri is behind him and we have got four other guys from Razer right
here I’m gonna see you may be the next one maybe not

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  • Reply peter sarmiento January 7, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    Looks like an EGPU.

  • Reply jayr122001 January 7, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    I think that case is more expensive than the GPU

  • Reply T A January 7, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    I just built a Velka 5 for $1600. It has a fulL size desktop CPU and GPU and is still smaller than this thing

  • Reply Aden Jyu January 7, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    Once it is released I can find the same compact case in Ali then build a pc with half $2500 for sure.

  • Reply INKS January 7, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    2500 is too much

  • Reply devttt January 7, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    Velka 3 or 5 with desktop ryzen and gpu will be cheaper and more powerful

  • Reply RyTrapp0 January 7, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    "very clean industrial lines"

    It's a box. It's literally a rectangle.

  • Reply Kevadu January 7, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    The ventilation of that case looks terrible. Sure it has exhaust but there's barely any intake.

  • Reply NubbyPig January 7, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    only getting it if the price is at most $1100

  • Reply melvin khosa January 7, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    Wait wait wait…watch @ 4:02 when Mike put the GPU in the daughter board…why is it like that? That design is horrible. The GPU is gonna starve the NUC9 fan….look where it's placed. I thought this was gonna be a sandwich design like we see in the Dancase A4 or Ghost S1. Razer always has to screw up thermal design somehow…smh.

  • Reply arian Kazemzadeh January 7, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    That is waaaay too expensive

  • Reply Bradley Naidoo January 7, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    To be honestly it doesn’t matter what the rrp is going to be for this, anyone who follows the razer brand and it’s progressing will probably pay whatever it’s listed at, but in my “case” if they just sold the case or whatever I’d be purchasing that and building upon it cause more than likely there’s going to be a tonne of support and other iterations from the SFF community

  • Reply Martin Dragica January 7, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    I guess I am better of buying some other sff case and choose components myself for half the price, if not even less

  • Reply test January 7, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    are there others that produce small form factor pcs (w/ desktop cpu)?
    the case is glorious tho

  • Reply nuke RT January 7, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    I am a razer fan with countless razer products including 2 phones.. that said personally I think this is a bad move…I have 0 interest in locking myself into an expensive, early underdeveloped ecosystem that quite frankly is ugly as well.

  • Reply Jannik Kiep January 7, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    You will probably have a big bottleneck by using a notebook cpu and a full size 2080…

  • Reply David Bonner January 7, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    This system is nothing new… In fact, the first personal computer kit, the Altair 8800 was built along very similar lines. Mostly passive S-100 backplane, with separate cards plugged in: CPU, Memory and RS-232 cards at a minimum, Floppy and hard disk cards when they came on the scene, and eventually video, network and modem cards.

    Granted, the cards in the new system are much more complex than a 1MHz 8-bit 8080 CPU card, but this allows costs to be concentrated on the boards doing the work. Board with the CPU having that specific chipset, for example? Yes please… If I later replace it with a different Intel or even GASP an AMD CPU all the required circuitry is there. No more waiting on upgrades because you need a new motherboard for the new hot CPU.

  • Reply Kahl Dragonborn January 7, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    No I don't want a GPU included let us bring our own and cut the price down, I am thinking around $1200 to $1500 with No GPU included or Ram if that makes it even cheaper. $2500 is smack you in the face stupid when I could build a custom Mini Itx system that's superior for $500 less in almost as small case.

  • Reply Scott Dickson January 7, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    Not when I can build a better/more specific build in cases about the same size for half that amount.


  • Reply Tasunke January 7, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    NUC ? That fail from Razer like WTF.
    It's fucking 2020, get a clue on what can be done in a SFF build…

  • Reply Kris Pedersen January 7, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    If it came with ventilated side panels and no logo….. then I would buy it right away

  • Reply Joshua Consiglio January 7, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    Cool, but doesn't seem very practical

  • Reply Leo January 7, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    Razer, let me stick an ITX board in it and I will buy the case.

  • Reply Mikey January 7, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    The GPU is blocking the Processor fan, I imagine thermal throttling will be an issue.

  • Reply HYDRAdude January 7, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    That thing is a total hotbox. I would pay $0 for it considering the only thing it's good for is killing your expensive hardware.

  • Reply Kahl Dragonborn January 7, 2020 at 10:22 pm

    RAZER DO NOT charge more than $1500 no matter what if you have to don't sell it with a GPU sell it without.

  • Reply IDarkWingI January 7, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    Benchmark that shit!

  • Reply Godvitz January 7, 2020 at 10:36 pm

    If you guys look closely you’ll see Matt Damon inside, waving thru that downsizing window…

  • Reply XxShiftyWolfxX gaming January 7, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    could you install this on an actual motherboard to have 2 pcs in your 1 case

  • Reply Koray Tanulku January 7, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    $1400 max

  • Reply Bill Sawyer January 7, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    No one will buy that at those prices. the Intel price is way to high to start. You can build your own ITX with a desktop chip for half that price. DOA….

  • Reply Lysol January 7, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    3:28 "i $9.99 a thk the I 790 750 H or the I 590 300 H yes there are mobile" man these subtitles are great.

  • Reply Sneaky Weasel January 7, 2020 at 10:52 pm

    So basically less performance in a bigger case than what I have on desk. Probably twice the price too. Nice.

  • Reply Lj Storyahey January 7, 2020 at 10:56 pm

    love the design?.. lol .. its a shoe box case with expensive branding.. great marketing though 😄😁

  • Reply Plasmancer January 7, 2020 at 10:57 pm

    Love the case design and how everything goes onto the chassis, maybe could have a touch sensor power ‘button’ on the razor logo to keep it clean. but Id want at least a fully watercooled system with 240mm rad and a proper motherboard for that price
    Hopefully the case itself is cheap because it’s simple in a great way, but knowing the sff market and razer, nope
    Gonna have to make one myself

  • Reply Chilli January 7, 2020 at 11:00 pm

    If they make a barebones one i would consider buying it

    theres no way im spending that much tho

  • Reply BigHulkinBrent January 7, 2020 at 11:02 pm

    With how this is made i bet the xbox series x is in size close to but more square but can be about the power just amd!!

  • Reply MudSluggerBP January 7, 2020 at 11:03 pm

    Looks kinda like the Xbox Series X in it’s design cues.

  • Reply Plasmancer January 7, 2020 at 11:06 pm

    Zoned out, all I heard was
    Nuc nuc nuc nuc nuc nuc nuc nuc $2500

  • Reply Radio Lycanthropy January 7, 2020 at 11:09 pm

    For the love of god… PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE……. NO FRONT I/O ON THE CASE!! Leave it clean and free of useless ports. That case's design is excellent as is. If anything, make the front panel mesh with mounting points for another 120mm fan. This way the case will have 3 system fans to work with instead of just the two at the top.

  • Reply Justin January 7, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    besides price that thing is going to get super hot almost no room for breathing

  • Reply TJL January 7, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    Looks like those components will be getting toasty in there.

  • Reply New World January 7, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    LOL, razer. You are funny. I can build a more power pc in a Dan A4, for less. LMAO.

  • Reply FelixDiamkil Gaming January 7, 2020 at 11:16 pm

    the only problem with it is that they user intel cpus

  • Reply Arendez January 7, 2020 at 11:18 pm

    Finally, a razor toaster!

  • Reply Witness Protection January 7, 2020 at 11:24 pm

    That's a no from me dawg.

  • Reply John Cawayan January 7, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    Tbh I thought this was the toaster

  • Reply Anton Blaschuk January 7, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    if 2.5k price is true a laptop with Thunderbolt and egpu seems to be a better choice in way too many regards

  • Reply It burns when i pvp January 7, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    A laptop CPU on a add-on board, cooled by a tiny 42mm? fan .. blocked by a massive GPU backplate .. and an ugly huge green sticker" in front for $2,000 pesos.

    Who's gonna pair a 2080ti with a mediocre, overheating, thermal throttling laptop CPU …

  • Reply Steven Burke January 7, 2020 at 11:46 pm

    I could see maybe justifying a $1200 price tag with a 2080 video card. I wish them luck getting any more than that. Mobile CPU just kills it for me and I think most people.

  • Reply m4keyourself January 7, 2020 at 11:49 pm

    I just spent less than 2k for an i9-9900k build with a 2080 Super…. no NUCing way would I pay $2,500 for a laptop cpu in a box with no airflow.

  • Reply Alex J January 7, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    to high price

  • Reply Final Synapse January 7, 2020 at 11:54 pm

    Full length graphics card with a notebook CPU “game changing”

  • Reply Budi Prawiro January 8, 2020 at 12:00 am

    where is the switch button?

  • Reply nixxon3g January 8, 2020 at 12:10 am

    if it was $1600 or 1700 bucks then sure because of its Notebook CPU….

  • Reply Vahlir January 8, 2020 at 12:13 am

    1700 for the form factor tops. 2500 no way. I'll buy a laptop with an EGPU and still have money left over and that means I get a screen and keyboard/pad/portable benefits.

  • Reply BioAltair January 8, 2020 at 12:18 am

    At $2500 you'd be challenging the Corsair ONE territory, with far less performance. This machine needs to be around $1800.

  • Reply Kevin P. January 8, 2020 at 12:20 am

    $2500? LOL no one is going to buy that. Don't waste your time razer, just sell the stand alone chassis for $150 & w/ i9 for $799.

  • Reply mega weasel January 8, 2020 at 12:23 am

    I’m hoping that it’ll be a cheaper option despite its good specs on the fact that intel might try and rope people into this new system with a cheaper price so when they upgrade they’ll stick to it

  • Reply Christopher Lo January 8, 2020 at 12:24 am

    $3 take it or leave it

  • Reply Venture Fanatic January 8, 2020 at 12:31 am

    How about a micro Micro ATX or ITX Mobo with such a interconnect?

  • Reply Flowkom K January 8, 2020 at 12:37 am

    PCs like these are cool but no way in hell would some average consumer spent 2500 bucks on a small dorm factor pc when you can build one that's about 2x the size for half the money

  • Reply WonderBrown522 January 8, 2020 at 12:38 am

    This looks like it will be very hot

  • Reply Fluxtroid January 8, 2020 at 12:40 am

    Absolutely pointless piece of hardware. Will be a flop. Other comments explain why so.

  • Reply Q Time January 8, 2020 at 12:44 am

    So… this is the clear-case version of xbox?

  • Reply Talha Jm January 8, 2020 at 12:55 am

    Since we're going to build a home media or game console or PC whatever.. im not really excited to get this specs for this price. I can get better performance for 2500$ .

  • Reply Abdiel Alfonso January 8, 2020 at 1:08 am

    I´m not the target demographic, but I would never buy this, I won´t give away the versatility of a real motherboard with a desktop CPU and dettachable RAM in a MINI ITX chassis, which isn´t too far in size to this.

  • Reply wedgoku January 8, 2020 at 1:35 am

    I was thinking more along the lines of $1500USD, Intel already did all the R&D work for Razer no point in charging more…

  • Reply Derek Fletcher January 8, 2020 at 1:37 am

    Razer, I mostly like your stuff but please change your logo. It's embarrassing showing that logo in public. Again, love some of your products (new wireless mouse, laptops etc.)

  • Reply Derek Fletcher January 8, 2020 at 1:39 am

    I really like your guys dynamic. You seem like really good guys and that you get along really well and it shows in your videos. Keep it up!

  • Reply RojasTKD7 January 8, 2020 at 1:42 am

    Coll idea, cool concept and nice little case/enclosure… But for that kind of money (or less) I can and have built a more powerful SFF PC. Sure my builds have a slightly bigger footprint but not so much so that I'd be willing to spend that kins of money on it.

    Some people would be willing to pay for one of these, I'm very much not one of those people. Maybe if I won the lotto, but that unlikely as I don't usually play.

  • Reply H- G93422HN January 8, 2020 at 1:42 am

    : wow… that's interesting…
    (imagine the “Holy razer price”…)
    : oh, god…please no, noooooooo…

  • Reply Jahkari Korchowsky January 8, 2020 at 1:45 am

    I would pay 1k and up with the ability to customize storage

  • Reply Dylan Daigle January 8, 2020 at 1:59 am

    $2,500 are yall fucking mad??? for a laptop processor and a glass box with fans, this guy's not getting one.

  • Reply Sebastian Beresniewicz January 8, 2020 at 1:59 am

    I really like that shassy

  • Reply CountCarbsNotCals January 8, 2020 at 2:08 am

    Pretty cool. Doesn't make sense to put a lot of hot equipment in a glass box, should be mesh all around I would think.

  • Reply Adrian0555 January 8, 2020 at 2:10 am

    Looks like someone has been watching optimum tech

  • Reply Recretic January 8, 2020 at 2:18 am

    I think below 500

  • Reply Tropic Sciurus January 8, 2020 at 2:20 am

    I hope they give us an upgradable harddrive

  • Reply Goldman January 8, 2020 at 2:32 am

    as an ITX guy, i can say I LOVE THE CONCEPT.
    still, razer has shown me it's bad side too much, both in price and in quality, sadly

  • Reply Supelex January 8, 2020 at 2:34 am

    Cool idea, but oh my airflow choke.

  • Reply Jan-Michael Barlow January 8, 2020 at 2:35 am

    2,500 beans for a laptop CPU is ridiculous. It’s not really portable, so why bother?

  • Reply Tobias Wikström January 8, 2020 at 2:50 am


  • Reply Peter KJ Richter - *IMHO* January 8, 2020 at 2:57 am

    "Angle-larity" ??? ;-p

  • Reply AO1337 January 8, 2020 at 3:06 am

    We are one step closer to being able to buy the Razer toaster again.

  • Reply Stealk January 8, 2020 at 3:08 am

    Since there aren't many mainstream options for customizable SFF computers I would consider $2500 with mobile i9 and 2080 to be fair. But…. I can't imagine many people interesting in high performance SFF builds actually looking for pre-built mainstream options. Also this looks rather loud 🙁
    I want to like it, but I also don't know anyone that would pay pre-built premiums for small size (even if $2500 isn't that much more: my 9900k 2080 build in Sliger SM580 is probably in the $2k range and was relatively difficult to build – but worth it to me for small silence)

  • Reply Griffs Lounge January 8, 2020 at 3:08 am

    LOL @ $2500…
    suck it razer.

  • Reply Ethan Zheng January 8, 2020 at 3:11 am

    this concept is really cool but just too expensive. Intel’s NUC 9 extreme kit costs $1050 for the core i5, $1250 for the core i7, and $1700 for the core i9 models (and this is WITHOUT ram and storage). Add in a graphics card, Ram, storage, the enclosure, and Razer branding and you’re looking upwards of $1500 for the lowest end model

  • Reply Krishnachandran January 8, 2020 at 3:18 am

    Reminds me of those Teachers who knew nothing about what they were talking… 😉
    Canucks know everything 😀

  • Reply Blue Ridge January 8, 2020 at 3:18 am

    With how easy it is to build a SFF PC with the best desktop CPUs on the market these days, there’s no chance I’m paying $2500 for something powered by a NUC. However, if they went with solid midrange hardware for 1080/144-1440/60 gaming and priced it under $1500 then it would certainly be tempting on the form factor and convenience alone.

  • Reply Blue Ridge January 8, 2020 at 3:21 am

    We’re getting consoles capable of 4K/60+ this year for around ~$500 this year. It’s insane to ask $2500 for something powered by a NUC, regardless of the GPU. Tone down the specs to console equivalent and price it competitively against consoles and you’ll be on to something.

  • Reply Right Wing Safety Squad January 8, 2020 at 3:21 am

    $2500? Try half that. If they could do the i9, 32 GB of memory, and a 2070 for $1500, then we can talk.

  • Reply Euan Zhang January 8, 2020 at 3:25 am

    why am i watching this I know I can't afford it anyway

  • Reply Theodore Moxie January 8, 2020 at 3:33 am

    if it can be a ryzen 4800h and it would be better

  • Reply No Name January 8, 2020 at 3:41 am

    The Corsair One, does this with a desktop GPU and at the same price.

  • Reply Laureano Alfaro January 8, 2020 at 3:55 am

    Ditch the green razer logo from the front and that itx case looks great

  • Reply Hevethee January 8, 2020 at 4:01 am

    Aww a little oven to cook your little pc.

  • Reply Amirul Syamim January 8, 2020 at 4:07 am

    Move over Dmitry we need more MIKE!😋

  • Reply Kyle Reynaert January 8, 2020 at 4:10 am

    If only AMD made a NUC, i'd rather get that new 4800H in there

  • Reply Randall Goodwin January 8, 2020 at 4:18 am

    Great job Mike. Keep it up, love seeing you in front of the camera!

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