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Can You Work Full-Time & Compete in Bodybuilding? | John Meadows | Table Talks

January 17, 2020

what’s up guys this is John Meadows and
this is Table Talk so for today’s breakfast menu we have two pieces of
sourdough toast I’ve already started working on my toast
I have a couple organic eggs look at that nice pretty orange yolk I have a
concoction bowl which is cream of rice a little peanut butter a little sugar
free chocolate syrup and I have my cup of coffee so has your diet changed a good
bit since when you first started so when I first started my goal was to get down
as much food as I could for breakfast that was usually a full cup of oatmeal
6 whole eggs it was a lot of food there was a lot of calories you know as the years went
on my breakfast shrank in size I um I found that having a really full belly in
the morning I just didn’t feel good so many times I would just get so sleepy I
would just want to fall back to sleep which I couldn’t do because I worked in
the corporate world you guys know my background so I had to
go to work so as the years of went by my breakfast has actually gotten smaller I
just feel a little better and even when I was competing frequently I still
kept a pretty small breakfast I tended I would tend to schedule more of the calories
around training so my meals around training tended to be a little more
robust to give me a little bit more energy a little bit more recovery and
the meals away from training tended to be not quite as big so for me I wanted
the fuel around when I was going to train now when I was younger I did have
a pretty pretty fast metabolism so I could get away with quite a bit of food
so I tried to I like to have meals that are what feel good for me and like for
breakfast this is perfect for me talking yesterday like you know you
working in corporate America you know for years you think you don’t think you
need to be a bodybuilder full-time to make it work so I spent many years
working in the corporate world and competing at the national level in
bodybuilding and many of the guys that were competing said you couldn’t have a
real job and be a successful bodybuilder and I always just thought that that was
kind of crazy because it actually helped me stay on schedule structure I would
get up I’d eat breakfast I knew at ten o’clock at work I can make my protein
drink I would eat my lunch and then at three o’clock at work I was gonna have
my protein drink then I would get home I’d have a pre-workout meal I’d go train
I’d get home and I’d have a post-workout meal so I did that I was in that routine
for well over a decade and I liked it it gave me structure you know I just I
think most of the people that say that honestly they’re just lazy they just
they’re just lazy a lot of people like to talk about how hard of a worker they
are because of what they do in the gym I don’t really think that that’s that
really that I don’t think it’s that hard I think it’s fun when I go to the gym
and I’m pushing really hard which I’ve done for over 30 years now I actually
enjoy it I get a lot of satisfaction out of that I don’t particularly consider
that hard work there are a lot of other things that qualify as hard work you
know having to work 60 hours a week in a job under stressful conditions you
know single mom’s been working two jobs I don’t want to go off on the tangent
here but I just what I think of as hard work and what some bodybuilders think of
as hard work it’s just two different things so to me I would go to work I
would work through the week on Friday I might take a half day I’d go to the
airport I’d fly somewhere I’d weigh in Friday night for the national show I’d
compete Saturday morning Saturday night I’d fly home on Sunday Monday I would
show up at work they’d say how’d the show go and I’d say oh whatever I got
fourth place and they’d say ok back to work that was it that was it so I was doing all
these pro qualifiers doing pretty well in the bodybuilding
world but it was just almost like a hobby but as long as you’re getting your
meals in and as long as you’re training hard that’s all that matters it doesn’t
matter what you’re doing the other X amount of hours through the day so I have two
twin boys that are now 10 years old been married for a long time since 2002 and
you know for me I’ve seen a lot of relationships and families break down in
this sport over the years it’s kind of a sad thing to see there’s there’s a
selfishness that comes with trying to be the best body builder for many people
that consumes them being completely consumed in every aspect of their life
they think about nothing but bodybuilding and I’ve been there
I’ve been there in my 20s especially everything I did was is this gonna help
me become a better bodybuilder and I don’t think it was necessarily a bad
thing I think it was just being passionate but when you have a family
and you know your mindset has to adapt you have to you have to understand that
you’re no longer the center of the universe if you have kids your kids are
the center of the universe at least they should be for you so for me I really
wanted to make sure that I didn’t become one of these people that were so
self-consumed I forgot about the people around me and I know a lot of you out
there have families and you work a lot and it’s tough and it’s it is a
balancing act there is no magic way to do it you just have to prioritize and
say I’m gonna do this this and this with my family and just gotta make it happen you
just got to be well-planned you got to be organized and got to stick to
it and be disciplined just like in bodybuilding kind of go into some of the struggles
of prep and getting to that conditioning because that’s what you’re known for
right well a lot of people ask me about conditioning and what it takes
I’ve been kind of known through the years for being one of the competitors
that’s in better condition low body fat and still maintaining a lot of
muscle and the truth is it’s not very pretty you you really have to suffer and
you could be eating 4,000 calories or 1500 calories but when you get down to
sub 4 percent body fat it’s just painful you’ll have you know periods where you
have a little bit of energy and then it’ll fade and the smallest of tasks
will seem monumental if you’re sitting on the couch and you’re watching TV and
you have to use the bathroom the thought of getting up and walking 20 steps to
the bathroom seems like a cardio session sometimes you get so tired the thought
of even talking you know just even having a conversation seems exhausting
and you really don’t understand it until you’ve lived it but I bet you there are
many competitors that are watching this video that are nodding their head right
now going – yup I know exactly what he means it’s it’s a brutal place that you
have to take yourself I hear people say you should feel great through a prep
through the whole prep and I do agree with that to a point you should feel
great your training should feel awesome you should feel your training but there is a
point near the end if you’re looking for that next level of conditioning where
it’s going to get painful and at that point man it’s just it’s almost like a
battle of wills it’s like can you can you just take it can you take the mental
anguish can you take them I mean all you think about is I need to go to sleep I’m
so tired and when’s my next meal like that’s all you think about it’s kind of
like Maslow’s hierarchy right remember at the bottom of that pyramid it was
food shelter clothing things like that where you go back to the bottom of
Maslow’s hierarchy and the only thing you think about is food like that’s all
you think about and it turns you it turns you into a
really primitive person but it’s tough it’s very tough and not many people can
really take themselves to that level and you know it’s a little different now we
have you know all kinds of if it fits your macros diets and flexible dieting
which is something that I practice but people take that stuff as a way to make
diets they think it makes a diet easy but again there’s no there’s no way to
make it easy to get to three point something percent body fat like it’s not
easy so if you want to get to that conditioning you just got to be prepared
to suffer alright I appreciate you all watching thank you very much I hope you
enjoyed the conversation and last but not least don’t forget to subscribe

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    0:20 – What's on the menu today?

    0:40 – Has your diet changed much since you first started bodybuilding?

    2:10 – Can you bodybuild competitively working full-time?

    4:40 – How do you balance family life with bodybuilding?

    6:20 – What're the struggles people face when getting to low body fat percentages during prep?

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  • Reply Just Some Guy without a Mustache January 15, 2020 at 2:07 pm

    Working full time will definitely be more difficult, but it's possible with determination.

  • Reply Armondo Ortiz January 15, 2020 at 2:09 pm

    "Can You Work Full-Time & Compete in Bodybuilding?" yes, but will be any good? no

  • Reply Your Daddy January 15, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    YES. But I have found that it can really affect your personal life and mental health.

  • Reply Mohamed Ba January 15, 2020 at 2:14 pm

    Dude eats like a 8 yo girl

  • Reply Abbie Boggs January 15, 2020 at 2:19 pm

    john gives me so much motivation, i’m in college right now and working part time but still going after it 😁

  • Reply Simriths Shankar January 15, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    My combination is worse i am studying for a technical degree and working out.

  • Reply RJ Abundo January 15, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    Definitely! If you are mentally resilient handling stress from your job, focusing on family and watching your shape.

  • Reply Samuel Thompson January 15, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    This dude is a fan favorite in the fitness industry. One of my personal favorites tbh

  • Reply Jason Feinman January 15, 2020 at 2:26 pm

    Ronnie Coleman and Sergio Olivia Sr and both Olympia champions

  • Reply 130hengineer January 15, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    Yes it can, but only if it's just you and your job.

  • Reply Dmitri Gutorin January 15, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    He is a lucky man, i can go to work the next day after the gym but i'm useless and it's not about laziness just need time to restore CNS and muscles.

  • Reply 4amWorkoutClub January 15, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    If you want something bad enough you will make time for it. If that means getting up earlier, then that’s what you have to do. You will put in the work and make the necessary sacrifices because your passion keeps you disciplined. This doesn’t just apply to fitness but it can apply to other areas in life. Starting a business, career, etc.

  • Reply Jordan Zareski January 15, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    You can technically enter the competition but NO YOU WONT BE COMPETING.

  • Reply Zakaria Ahmed January 15, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    John is such a great guy !

  • Reply Akshit Bansal January 15, 2020 at 2:53 pm

    Such wise words. Great lad.

  • Reply Allan Kelso January 15, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    I think Cedric Mcmillan is a good example. Full time active duty and a top tier Bodybuilder/Olympian athlete.

  • Reply Kale Chips January 15, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    I could not have thought of a better person MS could ask. One thing I learned from my experience is that if the job in question is a hard manual labor job, then I do not believe you can recover efficiently. I ended up getting a reality check that it is not about doing everything half-assed, but rather prioritizing what is important.

  • Reply Somdev Saha January 15, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Love Muscle & Strength, luv frm India

  • Reply James Power January 15, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    John nailed this. I work construction management, and my job keeps me really structured more so than being off work. Im not expecting to be amazing at my first show, but the structure helps.

    Also I follow his opinion on if you have to train heavy first thing in the morning, a nice heavy carb meal for your supper and training is the first thing you do. It helped, ALOT.

  • Reply Nicholas Campbell January 15, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    Cedric Macmillan.

  • Reply Proceed With Cortion January 15, 2020 at 3:01 pm

    Can you work full time and be a pro bodybuilder? Ask Ronnie Coleman

  • Reply Mithun Kartha January 15, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    I am a simple man, I see John Meadows and I hit like!

  • Reply Nicholas Campbell January 15, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    Well man I'm 20 years old and I work part time for a 40hour week of work to help pay my tuition and is in my 3rd year at college. It is EXTREMELY rough but I prioritize time management. I wake up at 4am and is in the gym by 5am. I leave the gym by 7:30-8am. and work starts at 9am. It's hard as hell because sometimes I doze off for like 5 minutes. Leave work by 5pm and school starts at 6 to around 9pm daily. It's hard brother but you've got to prioritize.

  • Reply Riley Koehler January 15, 2020 at 3:12 pm

    As always, videos of John are my favorite. Keep it up guys can't wait to see what's in store for 2020!

  • Reply Santiago Garces January 15, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    How do you manage to work at low body fat percentage

  • Reply Bonnie Boon January 15, 2020 at 3:19 pm

    Okay but what about a full time job and kids?!? Please tell me how??? (:

  • Reply Damoo82 January 15, 2020 at 3:20 pm

    I like this guy…really genuine & great advice

  • Reply PaulBodyBuilder January 15, 2020 at 3:23 pm

    Of course

  • Reply DJLiddle January 15, 2020 at 3:27 pm

    So true about how you feel during the last few weeks of prep. I remember just getting up off the couch or walking up the stairs being a monumental task. Walking about all day like the living dead and the brain fog as well! People don't realise the toll it takes on you mentally and physically getting stage ready. Great video 💪🏼

  • Reply elkie chiu January 15, 2020 at 3:35 pm

    Loving the calibre of guests on your channel ! More of John Meadows pls ! Also can we get a John and Fouad collaboration one day 🙏 that would be epic !

  • Reply K P January 15, 2020 at 3:42 pm

    John is the MAN! Doesn't get much better for a human being if it does at all.

  • Reply Adam Goldstein January 15, 2020 at 3:43 pm

    im trying to lick his undercarage

  • Reply Robbbbb1011 January 15, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    Been following John Meadows channel for a while now. Great guy, I have so much respect for him and there's a lot to learn from him about bodybuilding/fitness/diet as well as a good overall mentality in life.

  • Reply sangawashere January 15, 2020 at 3:47 pm

    I work 3 jobs, go to school, and bodybuilding at the same time. People say how do I do it?

    Anything is possible when you lie

  • Reply Travis Spears January 15, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    He seems like a smart guy

  • Reply Hi January 15, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    Completely agree with him

  • Reply フレンズファーム January 15, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    Ronnie did it!

  • Reply Carla Garthwaite January 15, 2020 at 4:33 pm

    Other bodybuilders: 🗣I work hard- You can’t have a real job and be a successful bodybuilder.

    John: Hold my toast 🍞

  • Reply Triple M Records January 15, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    The Goat 🐐
    The man Himself
    Mountain Dog 💓

  • Reply Timber Wolf January 15, 2020 at 5:22 pm

    I learned really quickly that working out was the easiest habit to get into. Nothing is hard as long as you enjoy it.

  • Reply professionnel name January 15, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    John is such a smart well thoughtful guy that I can never get enough of seeing him 💪🏻💪🏻

  • Reply Timothy Merino January 15, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    The best man out there truly, ty Muscle and Strength 💪💪💪💪💪

  • Reply Kamran Bird January 15, 2020 at 5:43 pm

    John should make more podcasts, his knowledge is incredible

  • Reply William Drijver January 15, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    Tom Prince stated he only trained for max 60 minutes per day. So he had enough time to start a business etc. "IFBB Pro" is not a full time job

  • Reply Tom Green January 15, 2020 at 6:35 pm

    Try doing bodybuilding when you are a truck driver. The wife and I are owner operator team. We are on a dedicated route. So I found gyms in our route to stop at everyday to workout. We meal prep for the week. Home on early Monday morning , head back out Tuesday evening. I have to do a double split on home days. Not easy, to say the least.

  • Reply Meusubaco Cabeludo January 15, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    Please, Put subtitles in PORTUGUESE of the Brazil 🙏🏻

  • Reply Drunken Pound January 15, 2020 at 6:52 pm

    Whats full time to you. I work 72 hours a week

  • Reply sToNe gARdEN January 15, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    Yeah you can , if you have super energy as a person and of course you dont have any life problems or a girlfriend etc.

  • Reply Im here because im bored January 15, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    Manual labour jobs are hard to mix with bodybuilding I think. I'm an electrician and some days are more physical than others. Up and down stairs carrying heavy stuff up and down on your knees all day is absolutely not what you want before a hard workout

  • Reply Adrienn Fancsi January 15, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    He is always a great motivation!

  • Reply Adeoye Yilu January 15, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    If you’re determined and want something you can do ANYTHING. Excuses are for punk ass bitches and losers🤫

  • Reply Tariq Ahmad January 15, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    John is great. Knowledgeable and friendly. Nice to see.

  • Reply Emil Lakov January 15, 2020 at 11:07 pm

    One of the best recent videos!

  • Reply sami bahous January 15, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    Finally i adore table talks more plz !!!!

  • Reply Uncle Biceps January 15, 2020 at 11:20 pm

    If there's a video with MountainDog in it, then that's a video I am going to watch and like!

  • Reply Omega tha general January 15, 2020 at 11:24 pm

    I work my 9 to 5 every day and train 5 out of 7 day a wk in Hope's to one day compete as a pro bodybuilder… just is hard

  • Reply MrRav1247 January 15, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    I see a john meadows video..i immediately like it!!!

  • Reply Buk_ Lau2 January 16, 2020 at 12:19 am

    Ronnie was a police officer while competing 😂

  • Reply Nate Peterson January 16, 2020 at 12:52 am

    How would I prepare for my first bodybuilding competition at 8 weeks out at 16?

  • Reply Leo January 16, 2020 at 1:01 am

    I still get the training in, but meals are so difficult with a full-time job (I work in IT and am on call as a sys/database administrator). It's not just the job, I spend 3 hrs commuting to work and back home. Pulling out a tuber ware container with chicken that has been sitting in there for hours and I guess you just gotta give no fucks what people in the subway say or think about that smell lol.

  • Reply kntwing.23 January 16, 2020 at 2:13 am

    that kids meal? use some kind of drug?he short…
    those vines pop out of his body…
    to me he to big..medium build is better..
    having a career put food on the table for your family..
    is better than body building?
    what do u get out of being a body building?

  • Reply drewsky 100 January 16, 2020 at 5:06 am

    John I love your Disapline and mind set thank's for sharing your story with us it's phenomenal…!

  • Reply st3ady January 16, 2020 at 6:33 am

    Thanks for exposing me to John Meadows! What a great man!

  • Reply Chris Culliton January 16, 2020 at 8:52 am

    Id love to get more in shape.. Then train with meadows and have him beat me down. Work in/work out

  • Reply Alexander Mel January 16, 2020 at 10:34 am

    Real truths, cheer M&S.

  • Reply Mladen Milojkovic January 16, 2020 at 11:24 am

    Ofc u can compete, but winning is a whole other topic

  • Reply oliver cundill January 16, 2020 at 11:26 am

    Has he got DS?

  • Reply Chiefaj 47 January 16, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    Not gonna lie it takes a strong man to be able to work a job and body-build, I’m currently a structural welder working 76+hrs a week, active in the gym but from time to time I lose that drive to continue or just flat out don’t want to do it anymore. It’s a rough lifestyle but builds character

  • Reply Dominate the Weight January 16, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    Love the Mountaindog! I understand what He ment.

  • Reply Cameron Ford January 16, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    This is great! Honestly the vast majority of individuals who make fitness their life have some type of mental illness and are typically too lazy to have a real job/ambitions. If they applied that passion to a career or being a good father/mother they would be incredibly successful. It’s always a certain type of person who just is incredibly self involved and cannot hold a job and instead pretend like this is a full time job it’s actually really sad. Let’s be real you see some of these people’s day in the life which is workout and sleep. That’s pretty pathetic and what bums do tbh.

  • Reply Poland syndrome bodybuilding January 16, 2020 at 3:24 pm

    John is the man.

  • Reply full blooded redneck January 16, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    Combining a full time job and bodybuilding isn't the issue, the issue is how to get down the amount of food during the day, consistantly!, during your fulltime job. that's the hard part.

  • Reply Cj lifts January 16, 2020 at 3:46 pm

    Nearly died from a colon disease and had it removed I believe and went on to compete again and win his pro card while working full time and being a dad… major props… maybe a few videos of his workouts next please😁

  • Reply Eunyce Willow January 16, 2020 at 4:52 pm

    Taking Notes;!!! 🤔📝 Excellent Video M&S!!!

  • Reply Frank Tufano January 16, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    Like seeing John he is ahead of most other people pertaining nutrition

  • Reply Sasuke January 16, 2020 at 10:54 pm

    Has everyone forgotten Ronnie Coleman worked as a police officer full time?

  • Reply Andrew Evans January 17, 2020 at 1:06 am

    My breakfast is shake, 2 cups raw oats with banana. 2 cups of milk and handful of strawberries with 6 whole eggs.. I'm 6"3 and still have hard time putting on size. I can eat eat and eat but I'll get fat. Muscle takes long time to put on

  • Reply Tootsie Crack January 17, 2020 at 3:49 am

    Wow it’s the body builder version of Joe Goes

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  • Reply MatiNaturalFitness January 17, 2020 at 5:23 am

    French toast!!

  • Reply Fadi Shoriz January 17, 2020 at 6:02 am

    I also work 10 hours a day 2 hours commute and am trying to body build. It’s hard but rewarding

  • Reply Fadi Shoriz January 17, 2020 at 6:04 am

    A lot of people forget Arnold worked a construction job while bodybuilding

  • Reply Hamza J January 17, 2020 at 6:35 am

    You will get tired and fatigued being on diet training before work. Is it possible, yes, but man the discipline and worth ethic needs to be on point. Fast working schedule etc 08-17 and gym needs to be close. Me working 24/7 any time at day, the Rhythm gets wacky and my sleep gets off the hook, especially working night shifts, couple hour rest then working midday and so on.

  • Reply ED POWELL January 17, 2020 at 7:41 am

    I told my wife I'm quitting work to work on body building. she said check the mail for the divorce papers…..

  • Reply JPIQQG January 17, 2020 at 8:01 am

    Forgot to mention that your genes also affect how ripped (contest standard) you can get before your body starts burning muscle. It is no different than having great shape or potential to put on size.

  • Reply TrueNoxianMight January 17, 2020 at 9:26 am

    gonna start a PhD soon, and I am very worried that the work will keep me away from training 5-6 days a week :/.

  • Reply RTR FITNESS CHANNEL January 17, 2020 at 11:04 am

    Great video!! Thanks for the content. I can't believe that people say that, I'm mean you and Ronnie Coleman are the first 2 examples that come to mind. It's very possible.

  • Reply Vaden Rade January 17, 2020 at 8:09 pm

    that's a hero's call,having a family a full time job and doing bodybulding, I am nothing with just a full time job,workout and 6 meals per day.

  • Reply Jaden Waltho January 17, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    No offence but He looks like if a foot could get acne

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