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2017/03/18: Mayhem while we’re freezing and starving: my talk at Western

November 10, 2019


these left your eyes and ears dr. Jordan
Peterson our differences between men yes curtain
tomorrow so the first thing I noticed did I
actually mentioned this at the University of Toronto debate with some
of you for all the watched is that and I’d be thinking about this for quite a
while I said there was an overwhelming which already been in the room that
through the dusty Toronto meet and if you look around with your day you’ll see
that it’s probably running I would say about nineteen camel and that’s pretty
remarkable way because there are more women than men in universities now and
so it’s been quite interesting to me to see that that one public costs the vast
majority of people from and also the people that are working at YouTube it’s
about ninety tenant as well and we’re not exactly sure why that is
although I think maybe that nobody is actually speaking to manage properly
maybe I’m doing a bit of that and I would say that’s probably also pretty
good for women because if men are doing very well you can be sure that very well
because as it turns out we actually need each other so anyways I’m going to start
again a bit I guess we’re talking about Bill c16 and why I mean I know I made
some videos back at the end of September I suppose most of you know that and one
of them was expressing my concern about a piece of legislation of the supporting
at the federal level called field bill 16 and it what I’m purporting to do was
to add gender expression and gender identity to the list of protected groups
particularly the development human rights legislation and also making
harassment and discrimination something potentially addressable under
the to permission from the cold on a surface
of it dirts very short bill as it turns out on the surface it looks so I’m not a
solo it’s very badly formulated the first
major error is of course the gender expression which is fundamentally
fashion as defined by me on targeting the rights conditioning websites it’s
how you presented yourself you how you present yourself in terms of your
clothing and you’re faster than your hair makeup and that sort of thing in
day to day activities so it shouldn’t be too my reasonable point out that that
does not constitute a broom and I’m actually a bit of a stickler when it
comes to language I think especially we were making legislation that we should
be laws that say exactly what they should say and nothing else
and since gender expression is not a group it’s straight to be it’s very
difficult to determine exactly how it’s going to be added as a group to the
protected groups under the relevant Human Rights Code but more than that it’s quite so it’s quite obvious and
I’ve talked to a number of people about this so I know it’s not just my
imagination then they’ll see 16 in legislation like that are going to be
interpreted in light of the policies that the Ontario Human Rights Commission
has developed and they are absolutely incoherent setup also have I’ve ever
seen one and that’s why the the first video the second video I mean because
you know the University of Toronto in its wisdom the HR and equity people
decided that it was ok to force their employees to undergo mandatory anti
unconscious bias retraining which is something I have a big problem with
together that night you can diagnose someone’s unconscious bias first of all
and even if you could there’s no evidence whatsoever that unconscious
bias retraining will help and finally there’s no reason whatsoever
why your employer no matter who they are should be messing about with the
fundamental perceptual structures of Europe of your psyche
when they’re looking at things that aren’t even voluntary so it’s appalling
on multiple dimensions and one of the things I would seriously recommend to
all of you is that if anybody starts to suggest that you need to undergo
mandatory retraining through your unconscious racial biases that if you go
along with that you’re immediately admitting that you’re the sort of bigot
who needs to be retrained and I would think very carefully about admitting
them because first of all it’s possible that it’s not true you know I mean
people carry with them everyone carries with them
certainly in any recent reference that’s quite common what exactly that means in
terms of their overt behavior or proclivities is completely in
undetermined by the relevant science there’s absolutely no excuse for social
psychologists to be putting forward tests like the implicit association test
which purport to measure unconscious bias as a diagnostic intuitive because
they don’t have the validity or the reliability to do before this such in
fact if you were a clinical psychologist that you were using tests about sort of
to diagnose individuals you’d be in violation of the statutes that are
governing proper products so I have my reasons for objecting to these things
you know what I really don’t like about Bill c16 and its surrounding policies is
that it’s it’s putting into our law a sequence of presuppositions that
actually happen to be false and it was me pointing out that they were false
that’s got me in whatever trouble I’ve been in and generated the accusations of
such things as transphobia and racism because the insane individuals who are
running black lives matter in Toronto and I’ve since I’m not a racist I don’t
care if you’re black or green if you’re crazy I’m gonna make the point
two people who come to our place now are really reprehensible individuals and so
I was objective to Papa well I don’t see how that makes me racist with regards to
being a transform first of all I objected the terminology because phobia
has a very specific terminology which is Department where I also object to the
word about Islamophobia by the way because phobia is a benefit term and you
don’t just get to pull many Pinter’s away from their proper context and apply
them to those people whose political opinions you don’t happen to agree with
it’s it’s misuse of language it’s misuse of medical terminology and I would also
like to tell you just so you know that there are a number of first of all there
aren’t that many transsexual people in the world aren’t that many in Canada so
whenever you hear for many of them it’s actually a reasonably substantial
portion of the overall population there are a lot of videos on YouTube put out
by transsexual people including the person I talked to you whose name is
Jeremiah who who stayed quite the vociferously that they only brief any of
the activists the trends the so-called trans activist political agenda that’s
being put forward as hypothetically representative of their approval first
of all they’re not approved the fact that you happen to have what would you
say gender dysphoria or or an indeterminate
gender identity does not make you a martyr the screw this certainly doesn’t
it doesn’t situate you such that some member of your group or someone
so-called Li let’s say can stand up and she’s ten purport the speaker you are
mass as if you were uh I want to this group I mean that’s completely
nonsensical I mean you can’t talk to a man and assume that these Peaks are all
math and talk to a black woman and have her say
that she speaks for all black women and they certainly can’t stand up say that
because they’re transsexual you speak for all transsexuals it’s
partly why we have the idea of legitimate representation for people to
legitimately represent a group they have to have some legitimacy perhaps they
have to be elected at least they have to pull the people in order recording to
represent as he can’t just come on sale it’s inappropriate I’ve received 30
letters for transsexual people and 29 men more positive and I have to tell you
why with regards to what I’ve been doing I could tell you why the first is
they’re not very happy with the idea that they’re being represented by these
noisy activist groups because they don’t really at each individual cuz these were
all individuals roping so that they’re they’re not happy about being
represented in a family because that isn’t how their political view of the
world actually helps to lay itself up in fact most people are transsexual are
perfectly happy for example with the pronouns he or she they just want to be
called the other one and so the people who are who want the agenda be to a
hotel pronounce a very small might worry of a very small minority it’s hard to
say how many of them are but the idea that they’re somehow developed
representatives of the whole group is observed they’re also not very happy
because they believe that that because this has become such an issue they’re
actually likely to face more prejudice rather than less prejudice you know
because generally what people want regardless of whatever kind of visible
minority status they might have what most people want is to live relatively
peacefully and invisibly among other people and so then whenever a political
movement comes out to exaggerate or or otherwise draw attention to the
differences there’s real danger and not so so I’d like to put to rest the idea
that somehow the trans activists who are accusing me of all the things that are
accusing me of are somehow more legitimate representatives of
transsexual identity and that’s a well-meaning than I am I don’t believe
that for a second I’ve dealt with all sorts of people in my life
more than more than most people that have me that’s for sure and they spend
every sort of person you can imagine that I work hard to make all of their
lives better regardless of their of the particulars of their identity and so to
cast me as an entity was thinking observed in I think I can be confident
stating that to because I have the good fortune of having about 500 hours of my
public statements to university students online I taped everything now everything
that I say to students pretty much you know at least in the classroom if there
is anything even remotely reprehensible in any of that content you can be sure
that someone would have hauled it out and put it on YouTube with big
exclamation points from them that I will be called properly to test for and none
of that has happened at all the reason for that is that there is none of it
exists so I’m not saying that I’m completely without bias you have to be a
fool to say that you know everyone is biased in their perceptions to something
great but that’s that’s not the point that doesn’t mean you’re racially biased
or that you’re racist it means that you have your own particular viewpoint and
then that comes with with the idiosyncrasies of peculiarities of your
character and your ethnic heritage and your race and your culture and all of
that so I’m not going to say if there a moment that I don’t have my own
viewpoint because I do but a certain thing better then the comments directly
that mean that your turn to target with some some of these half-witted epithets
that are continuing without me here completely without and
he stand in whatsoever so all right so let’s go into the background of Bill c16
and why I objected to it so I won’t quite be pleading to the legislation as
it was originally formulated in Ontario and that was the legislation that was
designed to provide protection for people who whose gender identities that
say were non-standard original legislation wasn’t too bad you know it
basically attempted to do perhaps what it shouldn’t if it was going to be
reasonable they actually defined the non-standard
gender identity fairly carefully but they shot the legislation out to
activist groups and what happened was that by the time everybody and their dog
so to speak could have her shot at modifying the original terminology is
absolutely mess and it’s an absolute mess now and we’re to tell you why and
also what’s dangerous the first thing in the policies that surround OC 16 there’s
a claim that’s been instantiated in the law in Ontario who will simply
instantiate have been the law in Canada and not yes it’s a technical point when
you need to pay attention to it because of the technicalities matter so the
claim is that biological sex gender identity gender expression and sexual
proclivity vary independently and that’s a false claim now that’s actually what I
said in the original video and that’s what people originally and still accused
me of denying the existence of transsexual people
because obviously transsexual people exist and they’ve existed for a very
long period of time but that has very little to do with whether or not
biological sex gender identity gender expression and sexual proclivity are
independent and they are certainly not independent they’re not even close to
independent they’re so highly correlated that the correlation is almost perfect
and and these things matter when you put them into into into the legal framework
and so what’s really happened is because the social constructionist types have
lost the intellectual battle as the biological evidence or the grounding of
identity that becomes stronger and stronger over the last 50 years because
they lost scientific argument they’ve taken about their art they’re trying to
expatiate legally it’s not gonna work because you
can make false facts law I mean you divert people by doing them you can
cause all sorts of trouble but it isn’t the work for any length of time so let’s
take apart the claim first of all the first thing is that biological sex and
gender identity are actually different and you know you can make a case for
that in a weak way because because there is quite a range of personality
expression let’s say and interests among people who have the same biological sex
so there are masculine women let’s say and there are feminine men and there’s
quite an overlap although you can distinguish the genders quite quite
accurately using nothing but personality information and interest so you can
separate them even at the level where there is some similarity but so you can
make a weak case for that but it’s difficult to make a strong case and the
reason for that is that virtually every person whose biological sex is male
expresses themselves in male or has an identity that’s male it’s only about 1
in 300 people for will not identity difference now you can say well that’s
because of the the degree of gender what would you say amorphousness
has been suppressed by sociological phenomenon as
that’s true and something really doesn’t matter it’s still going to be a very
tiny minority it’s not to exceed more than 1% I don’t think and so what that
means is that 99% of people at the same gender identity as biological sex so how
is that independent it’s the very opposite of independent so it’s wrong
it’s as simple as that and then now that doesn’t mean there are people who don’t
wear those – I had to do still masks and those are the transsexual people
audience but to extract from that the statement that those vary independently
is an intellectual sleight of hand and it’s really pushed forward by people
who arrived and social constructionists who believed that every single aspect of
human identity is determined by culture and that’s patently false and not only
that is dangerous lately because one of the ideas that characterize the most
reprehensible movements of the 20th century because the human beings could
be molded in any manner possible by the state that we didn’t have an intrinsic
identity of any sort and that we’re only creatures of culture and that’s not the
case there’s a very distinct human identity and I’ll talk about progresses
okay so on gender identity and biological sex do not very independent
that’s the first thing then the next claim is well let’s look to gender
expression well you can dress in any manner you want you can express yourself
in a feminine manner culturally speaking if you’re male or you can express
yourself in a masculine matter culturally speaking if you’re female but
the truth of the matter is that the vast majority of people whose biological sex
is male and whose gender identity is male presenting themselves and their
fashion choices as male and the same can be said about females so the notion of
whose independence there is also incorrect they can vary that they don’t
Haring independently and finally there – sexual proclivity the vast majority of
people who are male music you identify as male who presented themselves as male
are also heterosexual and that doesn’t mean that there are real people who are
a homosexual the percentage varies but it looks like
it’s somewhere between two and five percent or maybe between one and five
percent depending on the statistics but that means that at least 95 percent of
people who are male who are emphasized male and presented themselves as male
are also kind of assertion so those more levels of analysis do not vary
independently and that’s that so the law is incorrect it’s badly formulated and
it’s poorly put forward and that’s what I was objected to no it’s worse than
that as far as I can tell because it’s social constructionist l and the social
constructionist element is the insistence that all of those things are
culturally or culturally constructed and they’re not so let’s do that let’s
review that a little bit it’s like elementary biology I suppose what’s
different between men and women right well there’s a variety of things you
know the plastic human embryological form is female XX or XY and the males
are masculinized in utero by testosterone so that’s the
first difference in testosterone exposure in you the rule has quite
profound effects on later on all sorts of later than phenomena psychological
and physical so for example one of the things that higher levels of
testosterone the neuter will seek to predict is less interesting people are
more interested fast and so are not being well documented by research teams
in the UK in particular but in any case so the standard female Morpho the
standard will for more quality female but it’s translated into BL male
morphology and so then what do you get for standard
morphological transformations well is the evident genetic ones speaking
technically obviously male and female genitalia differ substantially as we all
know there are there are there is some variation in that although it’s very
rare and then there are also other differences that kick forward especially
the punitive hits and some of those are physiological and some of the recycle on
it so one of the things that you see how you for example is that there aren’t
very many there aren’t very large personality differences between boys and
girls before permitting with regards to negative emotion so that’s trading
eroticism for those of you who are interested in things like during
terminology and so people who are high on neuroticism are more sensitive to
anxiety and emotional pain and women are more sensitive to fit men to anxiety and
emotional pain on average and the effect isn’t massive it’s about a third to half
standard deviation but it’s massive enough so that if you look at the end of
the distributions where the extreme people are almost all the people who
have extreme problems with anxiety and emotional pain are women it’s running
about four to one in terms of depression and anxiety disorder diagnosis worldwide
and there’s no evidence that that’s cultural now on the other end of the
spectrum so to speak there are being all pathologies as well so males are much
more likely to manifest a bit social personality disorder they’re much more
likely to be characterized by alcoholism and they’re also more
likely to manifest attention deficit disorder in various learning
disabilities and so that also seems to be biologically predicated to large
degree so and interestingly enough those differences the personality differences
between men and women with regards to trade negative emotion emerge of puberty
well why well that’s thinking of it for them now these are speculations but you
can you can think about them to tell you tell me what you think I mean they’re
reasonably Brown in speculations but are not certain to going to state them as
fact although I would say that the idea that these differences in personality
between men and women exist that’s how powerful those typical are those
differences are and precisely what they consist of is still subject to some
investigation but it’s extraordinarily well documented so what happens to men
and women at puberty while the men had bigger they get
stronger especially their upper bodies and human beings are quite aggressive
were prey animals as well as were predators as well as prey offenses for
the one of the ways that we defend ourselves aggressively is using upper
body strength so we punch like kangaroos there’s other evidence that do that so
and we punched and so what that means is that men are quite a bit more dangerous
than women didn’t say panda can combat and that’s an actual actually a real
problem you see one of those you see that manifest itself in part you know
strange statistic because will come as news to most of you better wives hit
their husbands more often than husband see if there was quite quite a lot
actually but it’s in it’s a misleading statistic
to some degree because women lack upper-body strength they can hit their
husbands and they’re not really gonna hurt them that much I mean there are men
who are abused and I’m not trying to make light of that but one of the
problems with having much higher father body strength is that if you hit so on
your leg leviathans are hurt them and so male aggression in the in that context
the dynamic relationship physical aggression is much more likely means
dangerous or lethal to the female oppression of the same sort as part of
the reason I think that women are more likely to hit their husbands or wife’s
more likely to hit their husbands and the reverse is because both the wives
and husbands know perfectly well that the baby’s hurt that when you have much
so there isn’t as much in a vision in the mCP aggression okay so now what is
it what is it mean for women that men are stronger than them starting at
puberty it means that women are at a disadvantage in physical combat that’s
part of the reason I think that their nervous systems make them more nervous
or anxious and more susceptible to emotional pain is because the world’s
actually more dangerous for them now the world is also more dangerous for women
sexually now that’s self-evident where do you think I have to explain now is
foolish enough to try to disagree about the reason that sex is more dangerous
for women though mr. Manohar viously because women can get pregnant and that
changes that changes their life completely coming from danger they may
choose to have an abortion but that in itself is no trivial matter and as soon
as you have a child a nutshell is dependent on you then your whole life
has changed and in more traditional societies of you kind of sexual
adventure Co started with a standard traditional structures and you ended up
pregnant now you are in a serious trouble
and so for women to be more anxious and more susceptible to emotional pain
because of their increased sexual vulnerability is perfectly reasonable
and then the final reason I think that women are more susceptible to anxiety
and emotional pain is because you know it’s not obvious to me that woman’s work
nervous systems are actually actually served to function in the best interests
of women I think that they actually serve to function in the best interests
of because you think if you think about our
evolutionary past for that matter our president know you’re quite a different
creature when you’re a single person they all are maybe Hall Dan you are when
you are a female that has an incident especially in infants under both kinds
of all my console because human infants are unbelievably fragile you know
they’re born in some sense way before they should be that’s part of the
evolutionary problem too because our heads are so big the babies our babies
have to be poor very young compared to other mammals of our size roughly
speaking the gestation period should be longer for human beings because our pets
are so think the babies have to come out early and that makes it you know
relatively underdeveloped and so they needed tremendous amount of care they’re
very fragile and so it seems to be quite likely that woman’s nervous systems are
optimized so that they’re more threat sensitive and more sensitive to
emotional pain because they have to be more responsive to infants and they have
to take care of them especially in their most fragile state and that won’t be in
the first time months I think tilts women’s nervous systems hard in
the direction of what men might regard success of negative emotionality but you
have to be sensitive to threatened danger if you’re going to have an infant
because they’re very very fragile so I think the only the reasons and there’s
lots of other personality differences between men and women you know I can
give you a list of them and these are well-documented there’s not a lot of difference in men
and women in terms of extraversion if you look at extraversion as a whole
extraversion is roughly the dimension that bring the dimension of this valley
that’s associated with positive emotion and extroverted people are gregarious
and enthusiastic and assertive they like to party they like to have a good time
the social environment is their environment and as extraversion breaks
down into enthusiasm and assertiveness and women are more enthusiastic which
means that not only do they have more negative emotion than men they also have
more possible connection and so so that’s the positive emotion dimension
the negative emotion dimension is neuroticism as I said some are basically
indexes anxiety and emotional pain frustration disappointment grief that
sort of thing although the same dimension that breaks into volatility
and volatility volatility are another irritable and withdraw withdraw are less
likely to do things that are threatened and women are higher by about a third of
the standard deviation agreeableness is the dimension that men and women differ
on the most and agreeable people this is I think the most fundamental dimension
of nationality and that characterizes human be so agreeable people are
compassionate and polite warm and kind and giving but they’re easily it’s easy
to take advantage of them and they’re not about going to standing up for
themselves so naturally if you look at one of the things that predicts
wage differential across time male or female is more agreeable people get paid
less and the reason for that is that often salary negotiation negotiations
are zero song and if you’re not as aggressive you don’t get paid because
people aren’t just going to give you money we just
going to be nice to you that’s not how it works you generally have to fight it
for status and position and move look forward in careers and in order to do
that you have to take the relatively I would say self-centered attitude because
the offices in some sense the operative opposite of being agreeable is to be
self-centered and I’m also not saying that in a particularly negative way
there’s advantages to being self-centered and to fight for your own
territory and they’re more likely to do that and you might say well what’s your
evidence that those differences in personality aren’t culturally
constructed in the evidence for that it’s quite clear you can go online you
look up the skin beneath these studies store online and look up gender
differences in personality cross culturally you’ll find the relevant
studies they’ve been done with tens of thousands of people and what they showed
quite clearly is that in those societies where the most has be done to move move
the social world into a position of radical equality and so that would
roughly be the Scandinavian countries because they’ve done more than that more
about than any other country the personality differences between men and
women maximise they don’t minimize they maximize and I’ll say that again in the
countries where the most has been done to equalize the playing field between
men and women men and women get more different rather than more the same so
for only a social constructionist is out there the audience and there’s probably
not that many of you because you wouldn’t come in here meet our social
constructionist you’re actually wrong yeah
well the thing is no need so one of the things you might
be interested in is that it’s all the same to me its subsets like when I was
looking into this to begin with in this river started probably 25 years
ago looking at differences in personality between men and women you
know was it all is it all whether they were fundamentally biologically
biological or fundamentally sociological or or what mix produced the differences
no one knew and the most logical hypothesis really I thought was that as
you equalize the society that men and women would become more the same that is
not what happened and so we’ve actually looked the social constructionist
hypothesis with regards to gender differences in sex and personality we’ll
put that to the test in a very intense way and the social constructionist you
won’t fail so it’s very straining because no one really believed that
right if you make this big society one of the same in men and women get more
different what’s up with that well the answer seems to be is that there’s
fundamentally two sources of variability in personality right there’s perhaps
more but you can categorize them as roughly genetic and roughly sociological
well if you take out all the sociological differences between the
landscape in which men and women are rated all you have left are the
biological and genetic differences so they maximize well that’s exactly what
happened this actually matters it really matters
and this is why the demands for equity are so well there’s about 15 reasons
what demands for equity order offices between men and women should not be
overlooked partly because it’s it’s wrong to overlook the genuine
differences between men apart it’s not good for the man
it’s not good for the women so one of the things you see in Scandinavia for
example is there’s an overwhelming preponderance of female nurses and
there’s an overwhelming preponderance of male engineers and actually that data on
on personality differences there’s there’s there’s the standard traits
which all continue to go through I can do that quite quickly there’s no much
difference in trade conscientiousness between men and women if you break it
down into the aspects women are a bit more orderly than them but there’s no
difference in industriousness and then with regards to openness which is the
Intelli intellect creativity dimension overall there’s no difference between
men and women but if you break it up into the aspects then the differences
are actually quite pronounced so what you have is that openness to experience
is the technical truth and it roughly breaks down into something that’s sort
of like create creativity and aesthetic interests versus interest in ideas and
what you see is the women Hearst third of the standard deviation higher than
men in terms of creativity and aesthetic aesthetic proclivity let’s say and men
are one third of the standard deviation higher than women in terms of interest
in ideas and it’s not a trivial difference and it makes a difference so
but the biggest difference between men and women as it turns out this is almost
one standard deviation which is a walloping difference you never see that
in social sciences a massive difference is difference between difference in
interest and the masculine interest roughly speaking these and things and
then female interest roughly speaking is in people and that’s what underlies the
difference is saying in in career choice preference between things like nursing
and psychology and social work and and that sort of thing and engineering
and because engineering is perhaps the most male-oriented of all the
disciplines and the evidence that that’s sociological is very very weak now I
should also point out because this is important people have wondered for a
long time if they if the differences between men and women save as regards to
the sciences and the engineering you have anything to do with intelligence
and the former president of Harvard there is summers going terrible trouble
at one point in fact I think he had to resign because he made a very technical
claim when he said that if you look at the distributions of intelligence for
men and women imagine have a normal distribution right so almost everybody’s
at the average there’s some extremely extremely intelligent people but not
very many and there’s some people who are very intellectually impaired but not
very many if you map the distributions of men women onto one another there’s
two hypotheses one hypothesis roughly speaking is that they’re the same and
the evidence for that is is reasonable I would say the other the other theory is
that the means are the standing the mean is the same so both men and women have
an average IQ of 100 but the standard deviation is different so it’s larger an
amendment it is and women and what that means is that if the way the hell out
into the hyper genius range they’re almost all men but also if you go way
the hell up into the range where people are incredibly intellectually impaired
they’re also all men and that’s the increased male variability hypothesis
and you see increased male variability in a number of different species partly
because men are more expendable than women and the reason for that
biologically speaking the reason for that is that well you don’t need that
many men to impregnate a lot of women but you know
women you need women women are immortal it with regards to reproduction so every
woman counts although going to man thousand and
that’s true many many species and so you see more variability of male behavior
because of that cross species frequently and and that comes often at the cost of
increased male Ennis and you know look at it guys you get the diamonds buddy
here sooner than the typical one and that’s partly the price you pay for
running parking and testosterone because it’s quite toxic over the long run so
men are more men and do pay for their further whatever advantages they might
have and they pay for that that’s increased by about ten percent it’s a
non-trivial disadvantage anyways what Larry Summers said was well if the IQ
distribution is flat out for men than for women maybe one of the reason that
almost all the outstanding men in science technology engineering and
mathematics are male is because it takes a genius level of ninety level say
hundred and fifty or hundred sixty and when you could weigh out on the
distributions when the distributions different like that then there’s massive
differences at the ends now he didn’t say that was true by the way he said
that that was one possibility and by the way it is one possibility because Nature
doesn’t arrange itself so that everything it presents to us is in
keeping with what we would like to be true politically in fact quite the
contrary no I’m kind of with regards to that
because I’ve looked at the data on both sides and I can’t I don’t think that we
can make a determinable statement both the differences in science technology
engineering mathematics over representation of men on the basis of
variability and intelligence but I didn’t think we can make the case in
terms of interest because it is the case that the biggest differences that there
are between men and women are differences in interest and the question
is well do we have a problem with that because that really a problem now you
know you couldn’t you could set up your culture to
I hate those differences you know because you can make cultures very
coercive and so if you punish boys from the time they were born for being
interested in things and insisted that they become more interested in people
then perhaps you can do that and you would come at some cost that you could
do the same thing to girls you could make them less interested in people that
more interested in things but you know did you through the degree that those
differences are real and to the degree that they’re actually Balan grounded in
biology you’re gonna have to turn your society into something pretty gaff too
radical to produce those differences so what you gonna do that and if you did
what why do you want to do it is it no is it a big problem that men and women
actually have different interests and this is really that biggest surprise is
that something they never replicate all right so well so but back to Bill c16
okay the policy surrounding it are incorrect
and they’re dangerous and they’re dangerous partly because they are
predicated on the insistence that all of these these levels of analysis with
regards to human identity are societal culturally constructed and they’re not
and there’s implications for that too because one of the things that’s
happening this is happening particularly with regards to the equity movements so
if I’ll define equity for you used to be equality of opportunity but it’s shifted
to equity and in many universities now the human resources department is human
resources in equity they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for
that is it is it is absolutely appalling it’s reprehensible I actually think there’s almost no political stance
that’s more reprehensible than the stance that demands equity
it’s very alien form and to be tried very many times in very many places and
the net result of pushing equity political perspective was not good and
if we if people had any sense of 20th century history all the first thing
they’d realizes that political systems based on the notion of equity become
murderous very very rapidly and so so tada hilsa here’s how I’m diagnosed
and an organization as racist and pathological so the first thing to do is
pick your key dimensions of identity and whatever they happen to be then that
common ones are gender race ethnicity and sexual proclivity fine but they’re
very numeral right that’s one of the problems is that you can continually
something bite people into groups without antigen and the groups are
relevant you know so for example if you were concerned with the representation
let’s say of Hispanic women are you going to be deeply concerned about the
representation of Hispanic women from economically deprived backgrounds and
from and for rich backgrounds for privileged balances that they have
reasonably intercepted by Hispanic women into those who came who were privileged
and those who came from privileged backgrounds in further subdivide them by
well how about attractiveness how about that how about weight how about that how
about IQ how about disability you know you can
fractionated populations endlessly with regards to their group identity so that
that’s one of the fundamental problems with the notion of equity is because you
can never attain it because you can keep fractionating the group’s and so you’re
not going to maintain Emily but apart from now let’s say that you just start
with the major categories you know gender ethnicity race and sexual
proclivity that’s fine so here’s how you diagnose an organization to find out if
the people who run it are unfortunately biased and prejudiced you look at the
strata of the organization right at the power structure then you take each
strata and you map it on to the demographics of the general population
according to your particular way of breaking down that population you have
to keep in mind and if there’s any lack of concordance between the general
population and representation at each of those levels of the hierarchy then you
describe the whole hierarchy possibly biased and racist it’s like
well that’s convenient except that it’s wrong I mean well the thing is you know
most organizations do have their share of bikes for historical reasons it’s for
events or reasons that are perhaps a lot more unseemly than historical reasons
but the idea that you can categorically state that every single difference at
every single level of the hierarchy is a consequence of the racial bias and of
the unseemly thoughts of everyone in the organization is an absolutely appalling
thing to think you know it’s a multivariate problem right now why are
people represented differently in different organizations well there’s
probably 20 reasons not why you can’t just say well it’s racism or it’s
prejudice it’s like yeah yeah sure yes it’s probably racism and it’s probably
prejudice but that the only reasons there’s lots of reasons and you have to
do a differentiated analysis first of all to understand them and then have to
be very careful not to muck about stupidly with the organization to make
it worse than it already is and so the idea and that we thought the University
of Toronto HR department is teaching its employees just straight out that’s
happening if they if the organization doesn’t produce a population equivalent
outcome then it’s racist or sexist or whatever
esque you want it to be there’s something wrong with it and then where’s
the now everybody in the bloody organization needs to be reeducate it’s
like come on that’s just nuts it’s not sensible and well no he’s it’s not
sensible it’s it’s downright dangerous and so that was the other reason that I
made the videos to begin with is because I don’t believe that that’s the least
bit appropriate and I think it takes our society down there in danger is a path
so all right so let’s oh yeah so so this is the last thing I
was asked to talk about so we’re in a rather chaotic political period right
now and as you may have all noticed that’s certainly manifested itself in
the American election which is still causing all sorts of perturbations but
you can see the same thing happening in let’s say in Europe for the time being
right what you see happening roughly speaking is that the divide between the
left wing and the right wing is growing and extremism along both ends is also
growing and really that’s not a good because we’ve had extremist right-wing
movements in the last time in 50 years we’ve had extremists left-wing movements
and they weren’t pretty and maybe we don’t want to bring them back and so we
have a serious problem all right so let’s take a look at that
for a minute and look at a series so let’s look at the left so I’m going to
tell you some things about the left the first thing is that people vote their
temperament and you need to understand this because when you’re talking to
people who are across the political divide with people and I’m assuming
they’re relatively reasonable people we’re not talking about the experience
for a moment if you’re talking to people who are liberal or left leading then you
talk to people who are highly trained openness and lowering conscientiousness
okay and so that makes them roughly speaking interested in ideas and
creative but not very good at implementing things and and then people
who are on the right of the opposite there are Global Witness and they’re
highly conscientious and that conscientiousness and that makes them
not very good at thinking of new things but pretty damn good at implementing
things that already exist and so and so the thing about that is that both of
those ways of interacting with the world are necessary under different conditions
you know sometimes you have a good idea and you’re running on it and what we
need are people have we have just as intense efficiently and
effectively and in an orderly manner and the way you go but sometimes you’re
efficient and orderly structure is not working anymore because the environment
has changed dramatically around it and you need troublemakers with new ideas to
come in and break things up so that you start moving in a different direction
and you might ask yourself well when is the time for the chaos of the left and
when is the time for the order of the right and the answer to that is we don’t
know and that’s why we have to talk because of the like the environment
moves around all that’s right it’s constantly shifting underneath our feet
and sometimes it’s shift so that we have to shift to the last to stay in the
middle and sometimes it’s shift so that we have to shift to the right to stay
and then the only way we can figure that out is by having political dialogue and
that’s part of the reason why I’m stronger free speech and advocate isn’t
as if so I should have to defend myself for such a foolish thing
no honkies so what freedom of speech first of all
freedom of speech isn’t a cornerstone of our civilization
I think mister disappears I don’t think it’s reasonable to know how to debate
about Gotham and I think the reason for that is is that free speech is how
people faith now you might think two things but generally you don’t what you
do is have rehashed temperamental prejudices over and over again in your
mind and you actually don’t think much until you write for other people or
until you talk to people they make you think because your assumption is just
going to be that you’re correct unless you can really think and hardly many
people can think because in a way it’s hard in order to think you have to
fragment yourself up into multiple personalities each of which hold about
posing perspective and then you have to let those opposing perspectives have a
battle in the theatre of your imagination that’s a very difficult
thing to do and so don’t confuse having your idiosyncratic prejudices with
thinking you have to be technically trained in order to think and it’s very
uncomfortable and painful and so people don’t like it at all
so generally what we do they looking speed is that you put forth your view of
the world perhaps in the best manner that you can but also loaded with your
own prejudices and biases because how and your ignorance as well because you
have to speak from your restricted perspective knowing as little as you do
know and with your personality you know first and foremost in your utterances
and then other people correct you and hopefully you enter you enter into a
real dialogue where body you can transcendence be your own bias
limitations and expand the toolbox with which you use to work in the world and
everyone benefits from that and then you modify your viewpoints so that they
actually work better in the future because that’s kind of what what means
what it means to have a useful and correct viewpoint is do you have a
toolbox that is going to enable you to work effectively in the world and if
you’re too modest and too narrow or too ignorant what that means is that your
toolbox is only going to we’re very narrow environment if you go
out into public and you hammer yourself up against other people especially those
who don’t agree with you you can formulate the problems more clearly you
can discuss the possibility for consensus and then you can negotiate an
implementation strategy and the alternative to that is that you’re
silent your slave or your retirement that’s it we devolve into conflict it’s
fighting and that’s not a good idea and we don’t have to do it because we do
actually know how to talk to each other and although perhaps we forget very
frequently why they should have to know the other thing to think about this you
know you don’t exist just for who you are now you also exist for who you’re
going to be next week and next month the next year and five years down the road
and so on and so on you’re actually a collection of people that extends out
into the future and so what that means is that you not only have to get along
with yourself you have to get along with all the people that you’re going to be
and one of the ways to determine who those people that you’re going to be are
is to talk to other people around you because you’re actually a collective
that extends across time and insofar as you’re only speaking for yourself right
now you’re not speaking for yourself as you’re distributed across time but if
you talk to a bunch of other people then what you’re doing is approximating
yourself distributed across time so it’s actually even in your selfish best
interest to talk to a bunch of other people because they can help you
represent yourself better than your going to do this by yourself and then
you know I would also say that well there’s other reasons that you want to
you want to talk to other people to get your toolbox in order because we might
want to say to me well what do you what should you be aiming for in your life
and I can tell you that roughly speaking if you’re looking for something that
will give your life meaning that’s best that’s actually quite straightforward as
far as I’ve been able to tell them this is where the nihilists have it’s so
wrong that it’s almost unbelievable and as far as I’m concerned funding
they’re just escaping from responsibility anyways even though they
have perfectly rational arguments for their nihilism it’s like everything’s
meaningless it’s like no first of all no pain is not meaningless you’re never
gonna meet anyone who will never tell you that their own pain is meaningless
so we could just forego the whole meaningless art in to break off the bath
it’s like there may be no positive meaning in life you can have a
discussion about that but self-evident negative meaning exists and everyone
knows it and even someone who’s anarchic and nihilistic to the core you know if
you drive a spike through their hand they’re going to act like that has
meaning and since I’m an existentialist yes and look at how people are instead
of what they say it and they’ll act out the idea that that has meaning very very
rapidly so we’ll just go with that now it might say well if there’s all sorts
of suffering and that’s everything but that’s not the kind of meaning that I
believe doesn’t exist I believe that only positive meaning doesn’t exist
which is you know a little on the negative side I would say to begin with
but but I can understand it people have people can have pretty dreadful lights
you know and you can easily get yourself in this situation where it seems like
there’s nothing at all to your life except suffering and that’s what happens
to people who become suicidal for example and it’s no jokin they have
their reasons path you know sometimes those people have been hurt ways that
are absolutely unimaginable and so when they they see a horizon it’s full of
nothing that’s suffering you can’t just wave that away but I
would say the first thing we might hypothesize is that since
pain is an unalterable fact of meaning and certainly seems to be negative that
one of the things you try to orient yourself in relationship
to is the reduction of human suffering no because I think that’s all you know
the answer to what you do above a child who’s suffering in a concentration camp
isn’t who the hell is going to care the billion years right that’s not the right
answer and if it’s not the right answer in that situation then perhaps it’s not
the right answer at all and the right answer to who the hell’s gonna care
anyways in the billion years is why in the world when you frame a mistake that
idiotically I mean anybody anybody this is a kind of a trick of the imagination
in some sense anybody who’s quick-witted can come up
with a frame of reference that thinks anything that it’s almost anything like
leaning within that frame of reference well all that means to me is that you
picked a stupid frequent reference right why should you why should you accept
without doubt the consequence of your skip that elderly who’s gonna care in a
million years yeah really you got to be better than that if that’s how you’re
gonna write both meaning well so what do you want for meaning alright reduce
suffering that’d be a good one you can devote your life to that and I would say
start locally and and I think this is the alternative to right-wing
nationalism and which is too much order and left-wing chaos which is too much
chaos we don’t want to go down that rabbit hole again either so what’s the
alternative I thought about this for a very long time
I took me decades to come to this conclusion the conclusion is that you
straighten yourself out and you do that humbly there’s this idea that in
Testament which I get quite a kick up out of that you’re not supposed to pray
in public it’s a little more complicated than that so you’re not supposed to pray
in public until you want to sort of know the dispute that you have with your
brother for example I really like that idea because what it means is that you
shouldn’t make a public display of your virtue until you’ve straightened up your
damn life and this is one of the things that
don’t like about protests and I really don’t like the fact that university
students are taught by their half-witted professors that delay me to change the
world no don’t change the world by going that
way that signs that people that you’ve defined as more evil than unity first of
all the probability that they’re more evil than you is actually quite ly lower
because evil that maybe you’re in the same damn boat and if you divide the
world up conveniently so that you can identify the innocent and the Damned or
the oppressor and the oppressed and you think if you’re in the positive category
than the probability that you’re part of the solution and not part of the problem
is zero so it’s just not that easy you know and the most profound people that
I’ve ever read have said the same thing over and over like the line between good
and evil runs down the middle of every human heart and the first thing that
you’re supposed to do is win that battle on your own territory and that’s no
bloody joke that’s a difficult thing to do because it means that you have to
recognize that recognize yourself as a perpetrator of great people and that is
what you are and that’s a terrible thing for people to learn you know we look at
the 20th century and you think well who brought on the horrors of the communist
systems and the horrors of the Nazi system is the answer is people just like
you and that’s the answer if you don’t understand that and you think that is
wrong then you’re not very wise and and it’s not surprising because the price
that you paid for list of this is radical dissolute disillusionment and
the confrontation with evil and no one wants that really it’s a terrible thing
to confront and that’s because human beings are terrible creatures now I
think we’re also absolutely remarkable creatures and wonderful creatures but we
have an unlimited capacity for brutality and evil and every one of us carries it
and so what you do is each other sort that out of your own life and you start
ah I haven’t done talk to me just a while back about about his life having
well he decided to put himself together he started being this little ritual
thing which I thought was quite cool he was his kind of an isolated guy very
overweight guy when I talked when he lost about 130 pounds which was quite
impressive as part of putting himself together but he started doing it by
building he had a bunch of labels left over from his childhood and the first
thing he did because he was feeling very nervous tic and hopeless he he found
that he got a little bit of satisfaction of Billy little things on the labels you
know and I thought that was really interesting and so he built a bunch of
these things and then he said well I got a bunch of these things built and then I
kind of figure out how to organize them in the room memory that’s cool because
he started high resolution at the level of detail you know it was building
something that was trivial he knew that it was just playing a game but then as
soon as he had a collection of bills that he had to sort out the space that
he was going to organize them in any figured out really on this sort of the
room that they were going to do so we started organizing and beautifying the
realm and at the same time he modified his diet and he was putting himself
together that’s the right thing to do that’s the right thing to do is that
there’s there are responsibilities that are awaiting you right that are in your
own brows and you know what they are this is also something that no one can
preach to you about it’s something you have to decide for yourself and you can
do it read straightforwardly it’s something that I do on a regular basis
you sit down in the evening or in the morning and ask yourself Mike Harris be
someone that you want the answer from but the ingredient genuinely need to
want to have the answer not telling yourself none of that you’re asking
yourself all right there’s a bunch of things about my life that aren’t in
order that aren’t together and I know it and they’re making me suffer and they’re
making me less than I am and there’s some of those things that are staring me
right at the face and I know what they are and there’s some of those that I can
put in order today with a little bit of work so that when I wait
tomorrow the domain of my experience which is basically being itself that the
main of my experience will be more pristine and better put together than it
is today you ask yourself that you’ll find right away you know what they are
five things that come up and they’ll all be things that aren’t very heroic
they’re kind of trivial and that you do the voiding you’ve been avoiding those
our little dragons of chaos those things and you know they’re just little bit
that’s good because you’re not much of a hero warrior and so maybe little tiny
dragons are all the ones you know you serve those things out and they don’t
first of all in order your it will order the beating around you in a more
pristine and productive way but they can just a little bit more focused of
together and what that would be is that the next thing you can do is ask
yourself the same question and the problems that will emerge would be
slightly larger and more complex and then you can try to put those in order
and that will make everything around you more pristine and Bennifer together and
it’ll make you a little bit stronger and more clear-headed and then another set
of problems will emerge that’s a little bit larger and if you continue to do
that you know you’ll certain your cell phone
you’ll clean up your room you put your house in order and then you could start
to work in the community and by that time you’ll actually have some power and
some and some self-confidence and some confidence and some crazies and they’ll
be much more much less likely to stupidly hit something complicated with
the stick and say that you fixed it but you have to start lower you have B Carly
only said that very interesting one of his very interesting phrases he says
there the reason that modern people can’t see God is because they won’t look
Lowell enough I really like that at seven I mean he’s an extraordinary wise
person what he meant by that was something like what I’m telling you this
that to a secret to your existence is right in front of you and it manifests
itself as all those things you know you should do but you’re avoiding because
one of the things you might ask yourself is cursory useless and weak and
miserable and and and cruel than all those horrible things but partly that’s
because equip me and part of the reason for that
is they calculate what you know you should be doing so you might ask
yourself because this is a very interesting game if you started doing
the things that you know you should do this is a discussion with your own
conscience if you start doing those things that you know you should do and
you did that diligently what the hell would you be like in ten years
now that’s an exciting game that’s an interesting game and if you play that
you’ll find that you’re a hell of a lot more than you were and that’s something
at least you might not hit the pen offense but you’re going to be a lot
more than you are and then if you’re not weak and miserable and wretched and
suffering and dismal and south pity and all those things you’re gonna be a lot
less resentful you’re gonna be a lot less broom you’d be a lot less cruel to
yourself unto other people that’s a pretty good start
you know even if you’re not a positive force for good in the world if you just
weren’t wretched and horrible that would be a good a good initial contribution no
I would say to there’s a corner that goes along with that and this is so so
so you could look at it this way this is something that I tried to explain I
didn’t video on Pinocchio a couple of videos about Pinocchio which I mean
they’re fascinated by because it’s a very good themselves and how people
understand the archetypes even if they don’t know they understand them because
they don’t give a very interesting movie and think about it you might ask well
when modern people think about people going to church they think how can
people leave those foolish those superstitious question well what the
hell do you think you’re doing we’re doing or moving what are you doing
you’re here here you are you probably have seen Pinocchio lately but whatever
you know you’re an adult to bring your
five-year-old to seek no tip you’re just as interest as he is think about what
you’re doing first of all you know those are drawings they’re not real creatures
they’re drawings secondly they’re about a pot a wooden
puppet who actually happens to wander around who is being guided to life by a
cricket as high as Bowl is to L for reasons no one can understand and
somehow that makes a fairy turn them into something that’s real it’s like
that’s strange people right the fact that you’re doing that is very peculiar
and it says something about what people are like means that we understand things
that we don’t really understand and so no cable is up it’s a very interesting
movie I can tell you what its fundamental presupposition is I’ll just
guide you through it very very rapidly so the beginning of the movie Geppetto
who’s who’s a the archetype of the good father by the way which is an archetype
that we forgot about does exist because our culture isn’t just a tyrannical
patriarchy as you can tell by the fact that we’re warm and comfortable and
we’re not tearing each other to shreds at the moment which is what you do in a
state of absolute chaos right it’s mayhem well you’re freezing and starving
right and that isn’t what we have we have a piece and it’s rare and it’s
amazing that we have it and we shouldn’t take it for granted because it’s not the
normal order of things the normal order of things is destructive chaos and if
you’re fortunate enough to live somewhere this piece holland reductive
you should thank your lucky stars every second of your life and if you don’t do
that all that means is that you don’t know anything about history and you know
nothing about human beings because things can get absolutely monstrous and
it happens all the time and there’s always a fraction of the population
thinks that’s how they like things to be and perhaps there’s a fraction of Units
like that too and I wouldn’t do that fragment if I was you unless you wanted
to know where it will take you and anyways cause of their diet and then you can
tell that he’s got a warm house and it’s full of toys it’s full of music boxes
and he’s got a little kitten and he’s gotta go officially takes care of them
so he’s a good guy it makes this pallet and then he puts us both on the puppet
and that’s the final act of the puppet canapa it’s capacity to speak and that’s
what you want if you’re a good father is you want to take yourself if you want
turn into someone who can speak right who can speak his soul and so Geppetto
puts a smile on his son space it says wouldn’t it be wonderful if he could be
a good boy yeah wouldn’t it be wonderful right because that’s what you do at the
earther before me I think wouldn’t it be possible if this puppet could actually
become something new genuine and independent with its own voice well he
says that’s not likely goes off to bed then a star appears up in the window to
be wish this on the star what does it mean to wish on stars well the star is
the light that beckons in the darkness right and it’s something transcendent
you look up into the night sky it’s awe-inspiring whether you’re religious
or not you’re looking into the infinite while you make a relationship with the
infinite by wishing on a star you raise your eyes above the horizon and point at
the light that beckons in the darkness and you say I wish more than anything
else that my son can become a real person it’s like that’s what you do know
if you’re a good for the employer made him into a slave you want to be a tyrant
you don’t want him to be a puppet you want him to be something strong and
independent also off to the world he faces all these
different moral problems he’s armed with his conscience it turns out to be a bomb
right well why that’s well it’s cuz things bug you you know your conscience
bug shield and the reason that the conscience is Jiminy Cricket is because
that’s the same initials as Jesus Christ and Jiminy Cricket is southern US slang
for Jesus Christ and no doubt the other majors thought that was very comical I’m
gonna tell you that the bomb is a very strange representation of Christ that’s
for sure who would make it into a frickin and he’s also rather error-prone
in the movie so because the movie doesn’t have precisely the formal
Christian structure but part of the reason this took me a long time to
figure out too is that you have to have a dialogue with your conscience but it
has to be a dialogue is it’s actually not 100 percent right and it has to be
something that you build by having a discussion with it across time and
that’s actually what the no kid has no Junior cricket as the movie progresses
oh the puppet and the conscience get wiser by banging themselves against the
world and the puppet has to resist the
temptation of easy Fame and celebrity – that’s the first temptation right
because he’s asked to be an actor which is an easy way to be celebrity it’s like
the Kardashians right it’s a fix its status without responsibility or or
confidence and so that beckons has an attraction and then in these he’s he
learns that lying is a very bad idea right that’s why his nose girls so he
has to get that sort of go and then he said he’s asked to present himself as a
victim of circumstances that’s what the Fox in the coyote and when he decides
that he’s too old to go back to school they take him to Pleasure Island where
he’s trained to be a jackass that works for slavers into salt mines right not
bad for animation I would say and then at the end of the movie he tries to go
back home because he’s terribly lost and he’s half jackass because the people are
Pleasure Island total time to do nothing but brain which
I can’t help with offers are what will you say as an awful polity parallel to
what’s having to educate people who are being educated in modern universities
right which are increasingly playhouses where your talk to brain and listen I
can’t listen to protesters it just it just it’s just painful it’s this
constant repetition of a soulless nonsense a lot of the chapter is because the
protesters are trying to convince themselves even more desperately that
they’re trying to convince so anyways the nephew goes back home
half Jack house and half game and he tries to find his father which is no
going home right now what’s your an adult it’s your young adult you don’t
get to go back because there isn’t anyone there that can tell you what to
do anymore and so they go you can okay those holding his father isn’t there and
it finds out that he asked for at the bottom of chaos itself to rescue his
father and that’s what we have to do right because our civilization is in a
state of crisis and that was predicted long ago by people that beat you in
dusty is key and partly what you’re trying to do with you go to university
is to go to the heart of darkness right to the crazy that terrifies you the most
and to find your values your culture really has and that’s what it means to
go down to the bottom of the desk to the thing that terrifies you that most into
prison before your father it’s a very old story the Egyptians were telling
that story 4000 years ago it’s one of the oldest stories at that time and so
that’s what you have to do it um you you know you yourself as your culture so
you’re more than just a weak and simple minded individual right you dedicate
yourself to the study of what’s great about the past and you incorporate it so
that there could be something to you and then you bring your father back up to
the surface so that the culture can see and live again and then that makes you
into a real individual well that’s the movie well we’ve watched it cap identify
it now it’s time to understand it it’s time
to learn understand that in an articulated unconscious matter because
it’s too late for us to be unconscious anymore and so we have Scylla and
Charybdis we have the chaos of the left and the left says well we need to tear
down structures because they oppress obviously structures impress because
something’s good at the bar top of the structure not so good at the bar so be
of any value structure is gonna privilege some things and exclude others
but if you scrap the value structures then there’s nothing to live for so we
can’t do that that’s just chaos and then the radical right says back to the
nation it’s like really you know we went back to the nation a couple of
so it doesn’t really look that great and part of the reason for that is that the
purpose of the nation isn’t the nation the purpose of the nation is to produce
citizens who transcend and rejuvenate the nation and so the nation should be
problem properly subordinated to the individual right to the divine
individual for that matter and that’s what we figured out in the
West now it isn’t that we only figured that out in the West but so far we’ve
been fortunate enough to put it into reasonable practice in our political
institutions and thank God for that at least it’s worth somewhere and would
be completely foolish to give that up because look at what it’s provided us
with it’s remarkable for free as free as intervene that doesn’t mean that we’re
happy because freedom and happiness are not the same thing at all but we did
figure out that the state should be subordinate to the wisdom of the
individual to the sight of the wisdom of the individual but that puts a heavy
responsibility on everyone that means you have to be the wise individual who
can see and speak that’s your job and if you do that the thing that’s so cool
about that is you know you need a meaning in your life that enables you to
bear the suffering of your life without becoming corrupted that’s the basic rule
and you have to build yourself into something that you can actually respect
so that you can see yourself bearing that terrible existential burden
properly and then you don’t lose hope you don’t lose meaning because you can
see that you’re strong enough to stand up underneath that burden and then
there’s something about you that you can respect and then maybe other people can
respect and it will help bring suffering in the world to an end and it will help
people develop fully as individuals and that will enable us to avoid the
dehumanizing rigid sterile uniformity of the nationalistic left and appalling
chaotic devouring chaos of the radical left
pabu know the individual that’s the secret to the world and
you’re all individuals and so you’re all the secret to the world and all you have
to do to discover that is picked up your data responsibility stop listening to
people who keep burdening you with – how many goddamn rights the alot yeah it’s
like you need some responsibility so pick it up open your eyes and learn how
to make yourself articulate and that one of the world will descend to this series
of howls that had already descended into the 20th century well that’s probably just as good a
place as any to end and I’m going to talk to you longer than I was supposed
to but I’m going to do that so I think in principle we have time for questions
okay so start with you do you want to use the mic yeah okay so I’d ask you to
try to keep your questions relatively short so so see if you could get them
articulated up to the point where they can be relatively concise okay
so we’re Lee were talking about the idea that like who needs to be a distinction
between gender and sex and like I’m like you mean how they say they are connected
and the idea that because we can find an example I’m not connected that I’m
something necessarily connected like where does that idea come from I mean it
comes from there’s a deep fascia underneath that and alysha’s that human
nature could be intimately valuable and that the state to determine the
direction that that malleability should should take that’s the fun that’s the
underlying issue now I suppose there’s also a wish to something greed that we
can all burst the bonds that define us you know in a particular way but you
gotta ask yourself if you really want to do that one of the things I see
happening to young people that I think is terrible is that there has to abandon
their identity before they even have one and so then they turn to these group
identities which are extraordinary shell they’re very very shallow how are you
gonna get your life being a transsexual it’s not an identity I’m not saying
there are no transsexuals I’m not saying that but you don’t get through life as a
black person you don’t get through life as a white person you get your life by
having a differentiated identity that’s the toolbox that you used to interact
with others and part of now part of that means that you have
accept certain limitations on who you are but you want those limitations
because there’s nothing worse than total freedom it’s like you dropped someone
out the ocean right in the middle of the ocean no direction and you say you’re
free to swim any way you want to do the back don’t have an identity how about
here I question I just want to my question is
language already had well so the question is about you already think any
of us would be here so I think that the issues that we’re discussing would have
come up in another way you know because I think I think everyone knows that
whatever we’re talking about has very little to do with gender pronouns I mean
and people have asked me why I chose to live or die let’s say on that particular
amount it’s like well the answer of that is you have to pick someplace that’s
actual to stand and the problem might be somewhat observed well even in a battle
you know it’s like well who cares if you take the next yard of ground why would
you die over that well when you think about it that way it’s paramount it’s
foolish but you have to make the abstract concretely before you can
actually engage with it and so it just so happened that this was the issue I
didn’t believe that if there weren’t gender-neutral pronouns English then
then this would have just come up some other way because political correctness
and that and the polarization between right-left were occurring long before
this particular issue manifested itself yes the deposits all I think the
questions and then and everybody can hear them to be a little faster yes what do you think my military usefulness
is in understanding our components that go into how violence is created and then
examples or opposing the norm well I think you have to scapegoat the right
thing you know because there is malevolence in the world you know that’s
another thing that we’ve forgotten about our modern parlance my colleagues tend
to look askance at me because they don’t believe in such a thing and I think well
well first of all yes you do believe in it whether you say you do or not
if you don’t you worried you’re heading to sound unless you’re willing to say
for example I think it was unit 791 you guys without the existence of evil you
go online and read about it at 791 and then you see what you think about that
if I told you what was done in China before the world war 2 by the Japanese
scientific investigative squads let’s say that’s the sort of thing that the
things that were done by that unit were so terrible that I would not discuss
them before an audience without a trigger one because they would burn
themselves into your imagination and you would never forget them for the rest of
your life and if you can invest I think of a 731 by the way if you could
investigate that pollution that there’s no such thing as
evil then that’s fine you go ahead to live that way and just see how far it
gets you so we need to localize malevolence look at the other thing I
want to tell you too is that people have encounters with malevolence in their
lives and it often produces supposed to manic stress disorder so very frequently
soldiers develop post-traumatic stress disorder not because of what they
observed because of what they observed themselves doing so they observed
himself doing something absolutely vicious on the battlefront and they
think where did that come from I didn’t think that’s what I was at all it’s like
yeah you didn’t think so because you are never in a situation like that you’ve
never had a chance to reveal to yourself exactly what you were like who was truly
malevolent who really truly wanted to hurt them and there’s no room in their
philosophy of being for that sort of that sort of event or action just
fragments them and they never recover or they’ll often never recover
they have to develop a fully fledged philosophy of evil in order to recover I
understand that there are people who are 11 and that malevolence exists in the
world well we can put it on someone else and you can punish it them for and you
could chase them away and then you can pretend that it’s gone but it never goes
away and then the right way to deal with it is to find the thing in you that’s
that and to work to comprehend and to control it also one of the things that’s
very interesting about that that also makes you extraordinarily
tough if you do it you know I can give you a pop-culture example about me
so Harry Potter obviously has an enemy right and that’s old immortan if you
can’t see the figures saying Christ and Satan lurking behind those figures then
you’re really not using your imagination to any great degree there archetypical
finger strength and the thing about Harry Potter is that the only reason
that he can face full awareness because he’s oh he’s got a touch of evil inside
of it it’s embedded inside of it and that’s extraordinarily useful to know
that because it’s very visible to be a monster or more importantly it’s very
useful to be able to be in loss to them because if you can’t be a monster you
can’t stand up for yourself or for anything else so the trick is to take
that monster inside of me when to incorporate it in to use it and then you
don’t have to schedule another people and you can constrain the spread of evil
started with yourself and and only the people that you admire whether you’re
men or women have exactly that capacity because women do not like harmless men
they like dangerous men to the Civil Arts and men have no respect for
harmless men they like dangerous men who are civilized and so the trick for men
is to turn yourself into a dangerous amount of the civilized and I would say
the most dangerous man is the person who can speak properly so I mean there’s
other forms of dangerousness there’s nothing wrong with physical prowess
there’s nothing wrong with all of the multi-dimensional ways that you could
learn to be dangerous but the highest the highest order danger is articulated
speech and well for all these reasons is speech moves the world and so give your
skinny goes right well I would say question is that
Jonathan heightened his people at the heterodox Academy have attempted to rank
order American universities in terms of their allegiance to classical ideals
like many of the deeper than enlightenment ideals of free speech III
discourse comparative social justice maybe what the University of Chicago at
all and I think what I think about my answer to that would be Canadian
universities have done such a good job over the over the decades standing up
for free speech that everyone just takes it for granted but now it’s come under
threat and I think it’s come under threat because the postmodern movement
which basically started in 1970s and which is deeply nested inside a matrix
of Marxism while private economy the post-modernism himself poses a
substantial threat to the very idea of free speech just taken believe in free
speech you see that the postmodern is to go understand these things I’m not
saying that every social justice activist is a committed post modernist
because most of them aren’t educated enough to peenie Jordan by saying I’m just saying it
takes it to substantial amount of Education before you’re the incarnation
of a political philosophy right you have to do a lot of reading and so I would
say you know Michel Foucault by Jacques Derrida our fragmented up into there someone who’s PI person correct
you’d say well 95 percent of them is normal person that’s 5 percent of them
is like Michel Foucault it’s the evil offspring of Michel Foucault and Jacques
Derrida and so and but if then if you put 20 of them together if you’re more
and you get the whole philosophy blasting forward happening well what is
in the philosophy value scarf is excluded which of course they do and but
maybe further purpose of a value structure is to exclude so if you’re in
a structure hierarchy positions then you’re privileged for doing that but the
reason that the values don’t exist and that you fight for it is because of
privileges you and it doesn’t have the part by excluding me so no that’s
pushing it a bit too far it’s like value instructors exclude and
they happen because there’s no structures if they don’t exclude but to
move from that to say that the only reason valuing structures exist is to
exclude is palpably observed look if you’re gonna go get your brain operated
on you’re going to make a crease up
there’s a hierarchy of competence among brain surgeons that’s independent of
their desire for power at least partly and you’re gonna look for the best brain
surgeon just like you’d look for the best auto mechanic er or if the best
plumber for the best carpenter anything that’s worth doing by evasion by
definition and of course if there are good carpenters there are also people
who aren’t good carpenters is like prejudice to point that out it’s not
prejudice 2.80 they’re just not good carpenters luckily they might be able to
be good at something else now the structures exclude and that’s why babies
is and then what we should do is flatly eliminating things or floor perversity
I’m gonna say we should know that this is where the marks of Marxism comes into
it’s very strange into your identities there’s no way of having a dialogue
between them because well for the post modernists dialogue doesn’t even exist
there’s no way of developing a consensus between groups that are predicated on
different identities the whole idea of consensus through dialogue is actually a
tray that was generated by the people who occupied the most dominant positions
and those are the fellows centered positions that Derrida is always on
about well it seems it’s an interesting idea because now these structures are
prejudicial there’s no doubt about it no and one of the ways of thinking about
that if you think you’re not prejudiced like yeah yo do you sleep with anyone
who asks you to now some of you don’t get asked very often but but but I
make that very very straightforward point here is that in our most intimate
relationships were precisely most prejudicial you want to take that away
from people or do you wanna start knowing that certain kinds of prejudices
let’s say in favor of things that are desirable or valuable are actually different ideas yeah I’m jeanna so I’ll give an example
that woman heard studies and say well seek help from therapist
which allows experiencing and moves through crisis a lot better than me yeah
that’s one advantage that I threw the house on us another another advantage we
have generators that were a lot Malaysia post-traumatic we knew it by crazy
situations but to what extent doing jobs our
propensity so she just because doesn’t mean okay well it’s very complicated
question is given that there are differences between men and women let’s
say to what degree she’s so society be structured so that the negative
consequences of those differences might be all too common the specific example
was perhaps that women are more likely to seek medical attention and
psychological health which does happen to be the case and that that’s perhaps
beneficial and then would be better if men were more prone to seek help as well
and they have problems we don’t know who could this not be the case well let me
just think about that for a second here so you see if I can figure out how to
answer that problem I think the way you start is by trying to figure out what
the differences are at first you know because I always thinking I’m a very
leery of broad-scale Social Solutions because I think they’re so low
resolution that they tend to cause more trouble than they then they they tend to
cause more trouble than they forestall well just at the beginning of starting
to understand what the differences between men and women actually are you
know like the Scandinavian studies that I talked about they’re only about 15
years old and it is it takes about 15 years for scientific information
generally to sort of leach out into the general public if it’s going to do so
and so the question the next question might be okay what do
we do in the face of those differences and the answer that is like I don’t know
what we should do about it I do think that we should we should for forego the
temptation to jump to premature conclusions and we have some real
problems with this so one of the things that’s happening and many of you may
have noticed it is that men are bailing out of the humanities and Social
Sciences like math you know if you and this has been happening for about 15
years 20 years I mean overall enrollment in the humanities has declined
substantially since the nineteen sixties is old simplified nonsense and it’s very
very hard go there and they have whatever it’s like a Johnny it’s your
rap we have an aversion problem which is what we’re dealing with there’s no man
left the need manatees in the social sciences has that actually didn’t work
because I’m not sure of the work I guess we’re going to find out you know and
then we have that the converse problem statement regards to engineering and
women women don’t go into engineering well shouldn’t it well the first
question might be who said that should come Isis is that what we should
do is open up opportunities for people because I think the idea of leveling the
playing field to the degree that’s possible to equalize opportunity is a
good one from a sociological perspective because you don’t want talent to go to
waste now that doesn’t mean that doesn’t mean
that the way that’s done commonly is intelligent or appropriate because it
often doesn’t work at all it is best if we can open up society so that people
can let their talents flourish I would say we remove unreasonable prejudice to
the degree that that’s possible when you do that by constraining it in your own
life and then you let people make their own decisions and let it sort out the
way it will and you know you see that in scandinavia Or so that you have 19 Female nurses to 1 male nurse versus 19 Male Ingenieur to 1 Female Ingenieur, and maybe that’s ok Maybe that’s wrong, we don’t know But I think the individual should the people be who decide Do we have time for one more or maybe should we stop?

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  • Reply xyhmo December 29, 2017 at 11:21 pm

    I like the story about the lego guy at 54:23.

  • Reply The Crone December 30, 2017 at 10:20 am

    rocking great socks

  • Reply Weaponized Witness December 31, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    I am a man. And I have been soaking up as much as I can get from Dr. Peterson. Dr. You are right. No one is speaking to men on how to BE men. Thank you. I'd take a bullet for you if you were President.

  • Reply Pabs P January 1, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    The Equity Social Justice Algorithm – from Jordan B. Peterson
    Here’s how you diagnose an organization to determine if the people running it are unconscionably biased and prejudiced (not producing a population-equivalent outcome):
    1. Pick your key Dimensions of Identity: the most common are Gender, Race, Ethnicity, and Sexual Proclivity. [Technically you can continually subdivide people into groups without end. You can fractionate populations endlessly along any and all Dimensions of identity you care to use. (One reason why you can never obtain equity is because you can keep fractionating the groups.)]
    2. Look at the strata in the organizational power structure, and isolate each strata.
    3. Map each strata onto the demographics of the general population (according to your particular way of breaking down that population).
    4. Any lack of concordance between the general population and representation at each of the strata of the hierarchy allows you to describe the organization as racist and pathological.
    The idea that you can categorically state that every single difference at every single level of the hierarchy is a consequence of the racial bias and unseemly thoughts of everyone in the organization is appalling. It’s a multivariate problem, you cannot reduce it to one cause.

  • Reply George*50 January 6, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    We already have gender neutral pronouns: "it/its" in the singular, and "they/them" in the plural.

  • Reply sae1095hc January 20, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    1:00:45 to 1:01:45 – A minute that everyone should hear and think about.

  • Reply Webub January 22, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    why do they start randomly clapping

  • Reply Swedish Dissident January 27, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    One of the most valuable modern day speeches I have ever heard. I am spreading your thoughts as much as I can. Thank you for your heartfelt efforts in helping humanity to better understand themselves and the world they inhabit, Dr. Peterson.

  • Reply Born Free January 27, 2018 at 6:49 pm

    God, answered my prayers.  ..no words …. ( Thank you Dr. Peterson )

  • Reply kristy ann January 29, 2018 at 7:09 am

    Smart women love Jordan Peterson! Smart women want strong men in society.

  • Reply kristy ann January 29, 2018 at 7:15 am

    Finally someone who knows what a phobia is!!!!!

  • Reply walt234234 January 31, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    This is the message that Sam Harris is looking for when he says that Atheism needs to offer something more than just scientific truths, I wish he could see that.  Jordan Peterson's lectures have helped bring me out of the nihilistic rut I've been in since I lost my faith.  It's a great feeling to be able to find meaning again in the faith I grew up in, even though I no longer believe in the supernatural aspects of it.

  • Reply Tricia February 8, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    Did you know, that there are no government grants for healthy, caucasisan, male, 30 yrs of age and up? There are grants if someone in this group has a disability or has an exisiting, established business. Otherwise, once you hit the age of 30, you are a demographic that is not recognized as a human that can seek assistance from the government for a loan or grant. J/S

  • Reply Tristan Dizzo February 10, 2018 at 7:53 pm

    Almost everything he says is exactly what I needed to hear in that moment. The rest is feeding my ego just enough to let me here what he actually has to say.
    A true genius.

  • Reply Gregory Thompson February 13, 2018 at 2:25 am

    he just said that the gender thing would never go past 1%…..that means its going to go way higher than 1% in the relatively near future

  • Reply Dennis Diamond February 14, 2018 at 10:37 am

    Protesters these days on any issue are the extreme of argument. The ones who take it to violence are the same as the little kid who throws a tantrum in public because his parent says no to him getting his way. The younger crowd millennials have had a lifetime getting their way as saying no to kids has been made a damaging thing in the raising of kids along with plain laziness and irresponsibility of their parents. So, those same kids grow up and find out that the world doesn’t really care about their feelings and getting told no is pretty normal in society. That doesn’t work for these protestors and they become victims of society instead of figuring out how to mature. This is what Peterson’s argument is all about.. the lack of maturity and the sham of coddling kids into adulthood and what it does to them.

  • Reply A. Sciberras February 16, 2018 at 6:38 am

    I used to be an atheist. Then I began listening to all of Peterson's lectures.
    I believe in God now. And he is Jordan Peterson.

  • Reply Joseph Marinho February 19, 2018 at 8:38 am

    This is brilliant! Right and left wingers keep fighting each other not knowing that we need each other. It makes sense. So if we spoke openly and positively we could solve more problems.

  • Reply Don Binkley February 25, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    So you're saying testosterone is toxic? To society, you mean?

  • Reply Jon Lynch February 26, 2018 at 12:03 am

    Kermit has succumbed to the self-evident notion that life is hell.

  • Reply chavruta2000 February 26, 2018 at 10:23 am

    And the 10% that are women might be there just to meet guys…

  • Reply Andy H March 1, 2018 at 3:52 am

    31:52 – this makes Socrates a sexist bigot, because he said:
    "Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people.”

  • Reply Daryl Cox March 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    This is an excellent talk, as usual. The audience is terrible, however. Someone brought a baby, phones going off and too much clapping. Hopefully they've sorted themselves out by now.

  • Reply Sparkey March 5, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    Thank you for your insights, Dr. Peterson. You channel is an amazing resource for all who love knowledge. 🙂

  • Reply Vicky08 Vicky08 March 6, 2018 at 5:12 am

    His socks are distracting me.

  • Reply Vicky08 Vicky08 March 6, 2018 at 5:31 am

    51:37 "You shouldn't make a public display of your virtue until you've straightened up your damn life. And this is one of the things I really don't like about protests, and I really don't like that university students are taught by their half-witted professors that the way that you change the world (applause) you don't change the world by going & waving signs at people that you've defined as more evil than you. First of all, the probability that they're more evil than you is actually quite low. Because evil though they may be, you're in the same damn boat. And if you've divided the world up conveniently so that you can identify the innocent & the damned or the oppressor & the oppressed, and you think in you're in the positive category, then the probability that you're part of the solution & not part of the problem is ZERO. So it's just not that easy. The most profound people that I've ever read have all said the same thing over & over: the line between good & evil runs down the middle of every human heart. The first thing you're supposed to do is win that battle on your own territory. And that's no bloody joke, that's a difficult thing to do because you have to recognize yourself as a perpetrator of great evil – and that is what you are. That's a terrible thing for people to learn. Look at the 20th century: who brought on the horrors of the Communist & Nazi system and the answer is people just like you. That's the answer, and if you don't understand that or think the answer is wrong, then you're not very wise. It's not surprising because the price you pay for wisdom is radical disillusionment & the confrontation with evil. And no one wants that. Really. It's a terrible thing to confront. That's because human beings are terrible creatures. I also think we are remarkable creatures, wonderful creatures, but we have an unlimited capacity for brutality & evil and everyone of us carries it. So what you do is sort that out in your own life."

  • Reply JRCNottsUK March 7, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    Dr Peterson, you are a legend.

  • Reply Clark Gable March 10, 2018 at 11:48 am

    For a liberal jp is reasonable

  • Reply mydearpeers March 10, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    7:21

  • Reply mydearpeers March 10, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    1:07:42 Chaching

  • Reply mydearpeers March 11, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    1:19:20

  • Reply mydearpeers March 11, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    1:20:01

  • Reply Ben S March 12, 2018 at 2:13 am

    His socks though haha JP is awesome

  • Reply Karian Despri March 19, 2018 at 3:03 am

    You mentioned near the beginning of this (1:20) that you don't think people are speaking to male children or young men properly anymore, and I definitely think you're correct. The women I surround myself with in my social circles all seem to have much better ideas of what they wish to do with their lives, they seem to have better moral systems embedded in them, and they seem to have much stronger sense of self overall when compared to the men in my social circles of similar ages (25 and under).

    As a white male in Canada who grew up with a single mother and a lack of a significant social circle in my younger days, I had a pretty lackluster home upbringing in terms of diverse thought or challenge ("my mother did everything for me").
    And I can say with much confidence that any and all institutions I've been in have CERTAINLY failed to speak to me about the kinds of things you tend to explain in your lectures.
    There has been abysmal history teaching, no kinds of art teaching that are in any way actually compelling (and I consider myself a creative mind, though I always stuck to writing, since we were at least made to learn how to write properly in the form of essays and the like), physical health education is abhorrent; oftentimes, teachers would refrain on the grounds of "awkwardness" to show us the videos on childbirth or actually explain to us any of the biology (aside from the most basic terminology) of sexual organs, and they absolutely would not go anywhere near touching on the ideas that men and women have differing body structures (like muscle mass and the like).
    The only psychological education given is in Grade 12 (at least at the high school I went to), despite it obviously being a topic relevant to literally every single person in the country, especially with the sudden influx of mental illness awareness.

    And never, either in institution nor home, were any of my ideas really challenged or criticized (aside from "don't be an artist, you won't make any money"), so I was never really challenged to improve. Teachers are too afraid from backlash to say anything negative to a student. Even when it came to marks and such, I remember, there was one student whom I was very good friends with who had a lot of trouble in school. He would often get R grades (failures) in many of his subjects, but they never held him back a year to properly re-teach him as far as I'm aware.

    It's ridiculous…
    /rant

  • Reply Aleksander Kedra March 22, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    You guys in the room are so lucky, having a chance to listen to such an informed speaker at this early stage of the development of your thinking and perception of the world.
    You will definitely benefit from it.

  • Reply Phil Platt March 23, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    I think it's fantastic to see young Canadians listening to someone who is speaking truth, logic and common sense unlike most Canadian politicians and professors who are teaching the exact opposite, personally Jordan Peterson constantly amazes me with his vast knowledge of human existence.

  • Reply Bookwyrm March 24, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    More than 95% of men identify as male and are heterosexual.
    More than 95% of women identify as female and are heterosexual.
    Boom.

  • Reply Bookwyrm March 24, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    JBP is so much happier when he can wander around whilst talking…

  • Reply kerry lattimore March 27, 2018 at 11:46 am

    female fan here!

  • Reply C CC March 28, 2018 at 1:54 pm

    My "city," Burien near Seatac Airport, has just elected a majority far left city council. I attended a meeting with the new mayor, council members, citizens and police where we discussed the qualities wanted in the new police chief that will be hired in the near future. The small groups took turns reading their suggestions. I was dismayed at the suggestion of having all our police department participate in anti-bias training or something like that. We are also in a "sanctuary county" and have more and more crimes happening. Our new city councils first action was, and I kid you not, to "suspend the rules!" They then removed our trespass ordinance and junk vehicle ordinance. The homeless and drug addicts are flocking here. We have no rights. Only illegals, addicts and homeless are cared about. What do we do? I think getting the many churches here to wake up to what's going on and stand up for the community is a start. They hide behind the Johnson Amendment. We had some very decent people running on the conservative side for the council race last November but the left had immense funding from unions and the democrats and they plastered the area with lies that they were all "nazi white supremacists!" It's so absurd! I have come active in the local politics, paying attention at least and attending meetings, etc. They are not nazi's. I realize that unless one makes the effort to attend these events and meetings and get to know the candidates, we have no clue what they really stand for. I used to go by the campaign flyers but it's pretty much all b.s. at least the left's claims are. How can a group of people be so down right deceptive and just plain lousy? Don't they see the long term effect of their whims?

  • Reply C CC March 28, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    Wow! At 28:05 that's a very very important fact that Sweden should wake up to! The feminists running that country have all but caused their own cultural suicide and massive rape by the millions and millions of muslim immigrants they have invited into their country. Germany, France, and UK are heading there too. Such complete stupid insanity! I suppose Canada, with Trudeau the boy fool running your country you may be heading that way too. I sure pray we "lazy, bigoted, nazi, uncaring" conservatives step up and save the west! You are doing a remarkable job enlightening us to what the hell is going on. Thank you doctor! Oh, you are definitely not a nazi! : ) God bless you.

  • Reply C CC March 28, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    If we screw-up in the USA, there's nowhere to go to look for a new Plymouth Rock.

  • Reply Syniphe Ykant March 29, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    30:14 Here is my question: I know enough about Dr. Peterson that to doubt his scholarship is futile. So I am taking as reliable his interpretation of the studies that indicate "sex differences maximize" in societies where sex differences are most equilized. So what then? 1. I would like to see the statistical distribution of this difference for men and women and if it changed with the political measures taken as women 'claimed more territory' and as men adjusted to this; 2. Is this difference attributable to 'residual' societal expectations being expressed between male and female; afterall one would expect a carry over effect as these political changes are relatively new, less than a century old in fact. And 3. What to do about the 'outliers'? Isn't it true that when you codify any understanding of any difference between groups you also abandon it's outliers, and potentially supress them in reaching their potential? Race and sex differences in particular, as these are the most in flux over the last 100 years. Essentially, I ask how would Dr. Peterson understands this problem and it's solution. How do we hold simultaneously, as a society, excellance wherever it is found while still understanding and respecting statistical expectation. Political constructs like simplicity as far as I can tell, but in doing so isn't there a risk? How does meritocrasy become disengaged from sex, race, gender, religion…on and on. To those who will attack me for this comment, you should know I am a full on JP fan. Further I think, he should be able to give a fulsome response to this question though I know it is a difficult question. If he can't that's OK too.

  • Reply Buffy McMuffin April 4, 2018 at 3:58 am

    Thank You for speaking Truth to Political Correctness!

  • Reply S Perger April 5, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    Thi man is a hero

  • Reply Elliot J April 6, 2018 at 9:26 am

    Some people are too muddled in their thought process to think critically and let emotions set up beaver dams in their brains that block actual facts and scientific reality. You have to learn how to learn what is worth learning.

  • Reply Elliot J April 6, 2018 at 9:59 am

    Plenty of people only have a hammer in their toolbox.

  • Reply Gökotta April 10, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    I LOVE the socks (and shoes).

  • Reply Tracy Greenwood April 17, 2018 at 9:09 am

    Jordan "Transcendent" Peterson. (Said with love.)

  • Reply Evelyne Simon April 17, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    Now I get the "tidy your room" meme on Mr Peterson.

  • Reply xMurrCattx April 19, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    Those cheerful voices in the background? Those are the Even Younger Canadians In Action. 😉

  • Reply Riley Clarke April 20, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    Q&A begins @ 1:11:00

  • Reply Metathronos April 20, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    fucking love that he just owned that kermit the frog shit.

  • Reply Lisa Perkett April 23, 2018 at 2:07 am

    This voice sounds so different. Is it the microphone or the aucoustics of the room?

  • Reply Unknown Abuser April 23, 2018 at 7:26 am

    What about leftwing order? Wasn't the soviet union a form of far left order?

  • Reply Carla Marlene April 30, 2018 at 2:16 am

    my husband and i have showed our children( and hopefully they will see the benefits) of our need for each other. a man needs his woman and a woman needs her man. not just any one, or the perfect person, but the mate and match perfect for them.

    24: +or – lets not overlook the fact that, even if a woman does not want the pregnancy and eventually abandons the resulting child, while pregnant she is extremely vulnerable. i mean, how will she run away from the danger?

    44: when is the time? WE DONT KNOW! and thats why we need to talk about it.

  • Reply Michael Carag May 8, 2018 at 12:36 am

    He speaks so far above me that my proper role should be to listen….
    I say that to say this; WTF is up w/ that backpack by his feet?
    That's all I've got.

  • Reply Jane May 14, 2018 at 4:31 am

    Thank you, Dr Peterson for all these videos providing valuable information and insight to all of us.

  • Reply arktana May 26, 2018 at 11:49 am

    is that mr. petersons son sitting nect to his wife?

  • Reply akc August 25, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    Jesus christ 4 minutes in and he hasn't stopped to breathe, just dropping knowledge and logic bomb one after another, you feel like you're watching Beethoven simultaneously craft and play a symphony in real time in front of you

  • Reply akc August 26, 2018 at 1:23 am

    Out of context quotes, purely for fun. don't @ me
    JBP: Hardly anyone can think
    JBP: You're a perpetrator of great evil
    JBP: You're not very wise
    JBP: You're not much of a hero warrior
    JBP: Of course you're useless and weak and miserable and cruel
    JBP: You know nothing about history

  • Reply akc August 26, 2018 at 1:26 am

    you can literally see his brain working faster than yours. It's like racing Usain Bolt and watching him fly ahead of you

  • Reply Taeho Paik September 14, 2018 at 8:58 am

    My eyes go straight to the socks, especially the patch on the ankle.

  • Reply Aristarchus French October 8, 2018 at 5:08 pm

    1:06:00: Protesters =" repetition of soulless nonsense"…..classic JP,..tour de force brother!

  • Reply Buffalo Bill October 25, 2018 at 1:15 am

    i can't play a game when i am depressed. I am properly not enjoying things. Not just someone who needs to get a new hobby. Does not work. I cooked / prepared dinner for two others and cleaned up the house.. but did not really feel that competent for it. Learnt to drive since it was the will of my Dad. Don't drive.. feel that is the right approach to life.

  • Reply Ramona Lewallen October 25, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    If you teach one man that is great, if you teach one woman that is life affirming. The seed doesn't carry much of individual learning in one lifetime. That same learning if it be good enters into the egg, the womb, the DNA and carried further than with man. Thus women have been reduced throughout history as this phenomena manifest it's self. Yet if you read the last paragraph of THE BOOK OF THOMAS from the NAG HAMMADI when He says He will make Mary male, and that any woman who makes herself male will receive the KINGDOM!

  • Reply anthony hudson October 28, 2018 at 12:55 pm

    As to the gender based choices that lead to a particular field, I think it may go a step further than choice. Being genuinely passionate about a subject is almost impossible to engineer, and to become excellent in anything requires genuine passion for that subject. If you're a woman who believes that there are not enough women in physics, your passion lies not with physics but with women entering physics, so once you enter the field your goal is achieved on a personal level and it will shift into enticing more women into physics. This will then reflect in half arsed physics and an increase in activism. This means that your chances of remaining in, let alone excelling in the field will be greatly diminished. You can force a person to choose a subject, but you can't force them to be genuinely passionate about it. If men, in this instance, are naturally inclined to choose physics and develop a passion for it, this would explain why, no matter how many women enter the field, the majority at the top will inevitably be men.
    The same applies to any field that is meritocratic in nature.

  • Reply google account November 6, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    Cunt filming from the crowd in the corner there, cunt

  • Reply Gwynbleidd December 10, 2018 at 4:58 am

    Those are some badass looking socks…

  • Reply Raymond Berry March 1, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    My biggest complaint with Jordan Peterson: Jordan doesn't fully understand the radical left. He says he does, and he can accurately analyze their behavior. His position is reasonable. It is fair to both sides. He is by all his own teachings not an ideologue, and that is fine. I think his dangerous fault is he assumes the left wants to play fair and allow free speech to all. A snake will allow you to get close and not bite. Just when you feel comfortable, it is too late, you are bitten. Jordan will be giving fair and accurate talks as the left hauls him off to their speech Gulag. These people are in two groups. The useful idiots who will be on the team the day they are loaded onto cattle cars. The others are the true believers who will stop at nothing, have no morals, and will win at any expense. I see my fault as well. To tell the truth puts me into an extreme right wing group. Not true, but how else can one get the truth out. Marxism by it's nature seems to be a fault of human nature, destined to recycle every few generations. Why make it easy for the true believers ? Can a Jordan Peterson reach enough people to stop those who have a win at all cost mentality, and is the road map not already determined?

  • Reply Ngoc Pham March 21, 2019 at 2:54 am

    What an AMAZING man Dr. Peterson is! Even his followers are so smart, articulate and educated.

  • Reply c March 26, 2019 at 7:42 am

    i like the comments where people point out specific times they were moved by something he says.. it makes me go to that time and really listen…

  • Reply T'was an old username and I'll change it soon. April 16, 2019 at 5:23 pm

    Kermit! 😀

  • Reply FOSTER CHILD May 9, 2019 at 3:27 am

    It sounds like someone slapped a reverb chamber on the sound output and turned the volume down to half lmaooooo…

  • Reply Christian C June 28, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    Regarding the last question…. how about if we celebrate the differences between men and women. How about if we talk in the media about how each gender contribute to the society in their own way. Why a mother doing its best to raise her kids is less valuable than a male CEO? I don't see why. What if she raises the next Einstein, or a genius that will cure cancer? Will that level the plane?
    I think this feminist ideas of equality and the forceful implementation of these ideas are actually hurting the society for that reason.
    My opinion.

  • Reply Vance Biondo June 29, 2019 at 5:53 pm

    The western weenie talks as though you WERE A EASTERNER NAZI BEFORE YOU got your westerner free society. Education . To join the Mind mess munipulation machine . Frustration IS MY TOPIC IN THE COMMENTS FOR THEME 👇☝️ CONNECTION TO U

  • Reply Paul Nevard July 7, 2019 at 11:01 pm

    The Lord will only make you handle what it is that you can bear…therefore the fix on small scale makes sense

  • Reply Kelly Berry July 13, 2019 at 8:20 pm

    Brilliant Dr. Brilliant.

  • Reply 817CH M4D3 July 14, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    Anyone else particularly freaked out by the young man in the pink shirt? Just sitting there. Facing the crowd who's idea was this format it's dumb. Stuck next to this fuck. But damn dude I set this shit up we got Jordan Peterson! Damn he's so fucking right man, damn I am the man everybody here is psyched AND it's gonna get wicked lots of views online kid! I'm so high fuck this is all hilarious tho nobody even knows except they can read my mind. Haha ya Mr Peterson true!

  • Reply Akira Kush July 14, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    why is there a baby in the crowd so annoying

  • Reply Jim Lee July 18, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    Unit 731 was…unspeakable…Extreme dehumanism.

  • Reply phyric quinn August 3, 2019 at 7:24 am

    It is a gender neutral pronoun. What's wrong with using it?

  • Reply Keith Williams August 5, 2019 at 1:03 am

    One thought about the braying jackasses in university. Maybe school should be harder to get into. Maybe we should also have real trade schools.

    Masons make a TON of money. Carpenters, electricians, technicians, programmers, and the like make VERY good livings. If we put more effort in teaching the secrets of tradecraft, people would have more choices of vocation that would better suit their interrests and temperments.

    My father observed that some of the biggest yachts in the harbor are owned by plummers. Excellence is excellence. And the free market rewards excellence above all else.

  • Reply V August 6, 2019 at 10:20 pm

    Is this part click bait? I haven’t watched the whole thing but I’ve read many comments and I’ve seen no reference to any mayhem. I adore JP and watch his videos on a regular but I’m confused why he thought he would’ve needed click bait to get views? It seems so anti- JP so I’ll assume there is mayhem and the fact he’s freezing and starving has some relevance and he makes us aware of it. But, if this is click bait then shame on you because there’s soo many hours of his videos I need to watch and this wasn’t really on my list and would’ve rather not been baited to watch. So far, half way or so, it’s a great video but not being Canadian man or trans or political, its not high on my list of his videos I need to watch and would rather not be baited to watch. Why manipulate someone to watch your vids? Just thinking out loud….😬

  • Reply Claudia Bothner August 7, 2019 at 11:58 am

    You actually don't think until you write or speak to other people, because they will make you think. Thank you JBP for reminding me that one needs human contact to think and find solutions to huge problems. I am not such a squashed cabbage leaf as events changed me in to thinking.I badly need being talked with, nobody does, and I just go downwards, can't mend the holes in my boat fast enough before they make new ones and pour in water at that. I have to say NO! urgently, but am too weak(ened), intimidated, tired and isolated.
    I think it matters whom one talks to and get influenced by.

    Does JBP present any hope for those who ere not played with as small children? And who ere not properly socialized in the way of getting used to rough play, learning the limits btw fun/pain and danger? Can it be caught up with? Maybe it isn't that bad, must ask. And I can't be the only one,. God wouldn't create us unable to mend, when all of biology and supersensible faculties are economical and wise.

  • Reply Barbara Merry / Art as Experiments August 25, 2019 at 10:22 pm

    What an extraordinary human being ! I feel my brain respond , light up & organize itself cohesively every time I listen to Peterson’s lectures …

  • Reply TwoYears August 28, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    The guy in pink seems to really dig Peterson

  • Reply Sharon Aldridge September 1, 2019 at 3:05 am

    I don't care who it is, when someone gets up and gives a well informed, well researched talk on a subject that resonates with many many people, that person will get such enthusiasm back from the listeners, the crowds. Right now in many cultures around the world, the seems to be such a hunger so deep within, to hear about ways to not just self improve, but improve in ways that make too our world more liveable and even enjoyable. Well, it's an old old desire reworded in terms of how to live in an increasing complex society and world. We all are achingly and painfully hungry for deeper more satisfying food for our spirit, our being, that soul.

  • Reply Lee Johnson September 7, 2019 at 10:47 pm

    The Maple Leafs need to take his course

    They will realize how to play with heart!

  • Reply Lee Johnson September 7, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    Cubs won the World Series 6 months later

  • Reply Mike Dice Writes September 18, 2019 at 8:29 pm

    That opening with Kermit was priceless

  • Reply Johnathan Grey September 25, 2019 at 6:46 pm

    The man of men. The man who probably saved United States men. Hell, I can even tell my boss. "Look at the camera's before you make a jury decide."

  • Reply Dianne Ross September 28, 2019 at 4:44 am

    The subtitles are saying the wrong thing (in case you're deaf and reading it)

  • Reply Pete September 28, 2019 at 8:25 am

    Never in my life has anyone made more sense than Dr.Peterson. This lecture (and I've watched many in the last few weeks) is the one that resonates the most. It's time to clean up my room.

  • Reply Barry Ford September 30, 2019 at 4:52 am

    I wonder if the person with the small child making all the noise during the talk actually took anything away from the talk. Were they even thinking of the people in the rest of the auditorium who wanted to focus?

  • Reply Mirza Jelacic October 3, 2019 at 8:53 am

    Nobody is talking about the never-ending bottle of water…

  • Reply bademoxy October 15, 2019 at 12:47 am

    "since women and men need each other, when men don;t do well , then women end up not doing well either".
    aside perhaps for radical feminist/lesbians , this at some point has to be true.

    witness the social psychologists studies which indict that modern western women are far unhappier than earlier generations who
    conversely had not nearly the affluence nor independence . Biology MATTERS! isolation from the opposite sex makes one sick.

  • Reply Church-guy Goggiano October 20, 2019 at 12:25 am

    Funny, always thought he sounded a bit like Kermit.

  • Reply Patricia M October 22, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    Four deaths PER DAY (mostly black) at the hands of US police is clearly policy and a Black Lives Matter response is completely warranted.

  • Reply Jakobathin October 26, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    0:25 Kermit is alive

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